PS3 HDMI, but No Hard Drive

[drseid]

Personally, I will buy the PS3 for its BluRay drive. The gaming capabilities most will buy it for are not important to me at all, but I guess they are an added bonus. To me, it will serve its purpose of being the cheapest way to get a 1st gen BluRay compatible drive.

---Dave

[Groundbeef]

Personally, I will buy the PS3 for its BluRay drive. The gaming capabilities most will buy it for are not important to me at all, but I guess they are an added bonus. To me, it will serve its purpose of being the cheapest way to get a 1st gen BluRay compatible drive.

---Dave

Sony's hoping you will be the only one. They only make money if you buy games. Current thought is that if Sony matches 360 at $400 they will be losing more than $150 per console. Games are where the money is.

[drseid]

Sony's hoping you will be the only one. They only make money if you buy games. Current thought is that if Sony matches 360 at $400 they will be losing more than $150 per console. Games are where the money is.

As a consumer, I am just fine with that (I doubt Sony is though)... ;-)

---Dave

[topspeed]

I'm with Dave. I'll buy the PS3 when there is plenty of BluRay software along with good games. As a video source, this thing will be one of the least expensive BluRay players available at the initial launch. Who cares if Sony is losing money? Their marketing strategy is not really my problem.

BTW Dave,
I noticed you added the CODA. Congrats on that! What happened to the Stratos?

[drseid]

I'm with Dave. I'll buy the PS3 when there is plenty of BluRay software along with good games. As a video source, this thing will be one of the least expensive BluRay players available at the initial launch. Who cares if Sony is losing money? Their marketing strategy is not really my problem.

BTW Dave,
I noticed you added the CODA. Congrats on that! What happened to the Stratos?

Well, the Coda amp is really my old Legacy High Current amp made by Coda that blew after my 30 minutes of sonic heaven on the Tylers when I bought it used months ago... The Stratos was on a build delay by the manufacturer, so on a whim, I called up Coda to see if they could fix the amp thinking it would be cost prohibitive (I figured the burning smell meant it was done for)... When I was quoted $500 or less over the phone, I figured it was better to just fix it than toss it (I am lucky I never threw it out, even after I thought I could never use it again). Bottom line, the amp cost $125 to fix including return shipping, so my fears were completely unfounded on the repair costs. I now have the amp I wanted with my speakers in the first place, and saved $1300 to boot. Needless to say, I cancelled the Stratos order before assembly began. While I feel bad for Klaus, I am a happy camper with the Coda. and know I would not have found a better match with my Linbrook System.

---Dave

[bacchanal]

Sony's hoping you will be the only one. They only make money if you buy games. Current thought is that if Sony matches 360 at $400 they will be losing more than $150 per console. Games are where the money is.

Those market analysts or whatever they are that try to guess these things aren't neccessarily correct. They said that microsoft was losing money on the xbox after microsoft itself said that they were making a profit on the hardware.

[Groundbeef]

Those market analysts or whatever they are that try to guess these things aren't neccessarily correct. They said that microsoft was losing money on the xbox after microsoft itself said that they were making a profit on the hardware.

Gonna have to differ on this one with you. Even Microsoft has admitted to losing money on the original XBOX and XBOX 360. I will provide links if you need. Also, there are many others written on the PS3 will be a money loser for Sony.

This is not guessing in that they are blindly shouting out numbers. It is pretty easy to tear these consoles apart, and analyze the components. Without a doubt in the inital phase of the console they are a money loser. As time goes on, and the experience curve gets better, then MAYBE the mfg (sony or MS) will make money due to price breaks on quantity of parts ordered, or the natural downward pressure on computer parts pricing as time moves forward. However, it is an established fact that MS and Sony do not make money on the consoles (in the beginning). Sony is making money on the PS2, but that is due to economies of scale...after 80 million units, you better be making money!

Nintendo is a different animal. They generally make money on the consoles (albiet maybe a few dollars per console) but, they are also not cutting edge. When Xbox and PS2 were using dvd, game cube went with smaller disks. N64 was a cartridge, not a disk, and so on.

[teledynepost]

Nintendo is a different animal. They generally make money on the consoles (albiet maybe a few dollars per console) but, they are also not cutting edge.

I definitely remember GameCube at release was priced below the manufacturing cost. I remember it was quite cheap compared to PS2 and XBox.