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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    I like the look, but I'd like it better in SILVER -- or light champagne like, say, this Accuphase. Regards the price, I'd really need to be persuaded that Onkyo was worth that kinda money, (even though I'm enjoying my new Onkyo HT receiver).


    Yes!

    I was going to follow your opinion, and say they really should do this too...

    but apparently,



    They already have

    I also found pics with the same white lights like in the pics above...
    I wonder how it would look, if they had used the same green/blueish lights as the old Onkyo & integra amps

    Also found this:



    Looks pretty good too, dual power supplies, symmetrical buildup, fairly small power amp stages though, usually in amps of this caliber, you see the heatsinks & power amp boards over the full lenght. But still, for a 80W/ch @8ohm, beefy amp

    One thing that leaves me with a question is the power consumption: 280W, for the 230V version, that's barely more than 1A. Either it is REALLY efficient, or the rating is off. Also, at 4ohms it can put out 150 watts, 170 watts dynamic, x2, which is more than the power consumption... strange...

    Also found a pic of the rear, looked good, good quality binding posts and all, you can also run it bridged, as a big mono amp. Only one remark, and you can see this too on the internal pic:

    There is only one XLR input, so this means you can only run the amp in balanced operation when you bridge it, which makes sense, somehow, because bridging it makes it a fully balanced amplifier too, however, most amps that offer XLR do offer them for stereo use too...

    Anyway, I'm pretty impressed, seeing this from Onkyo, reminds me of the big Integra amps with big meters from back then , I wonder how they sound...
    then again, in the early 90's there was this, a 72kg monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    Also found this:




    There is only one XLR input, so this means you can only run the amp in balanced operation when you bridge it, which makes sense, somehow, because bridging it makes it a fully balanced amplifier too, however, most amps that offer XLR do offer them for stereo use too...


    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
    Great pic.

    Just by looking at the picture, the amp looks balanced.
    Maybe it difference underneath PS caps, but why would Onkyo put in symmetrical components then just 1 XLR input? Are they cutting corners? Then again I can't name a single manufacturer who makes truly balanced stereo amp at under $2500.

    Whatchu think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    ............Then again I can't name a single manufacturer who makes truly balanced stereo amp at under $2500.

    Whatchu think?

    I can....

    http://www.marshsounddesign.com/a400s.html This sells for $2295 MSRP
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Great pic.

    Just by looking at the picture, the amp looks balanced.
    Maybe it difference underneath PS caps, but why would Onkyo put in symmetrical components then just 1 XLR input? Are they cutting corners? Then again I can't name a single manufacturer who makes truly balanced stereo amp at under $2500.

    Whatchu think?
    My Monarhy SM-70 Pro amps are the same: a single XLR input for fully balanced, monoblock operation
    ...


    Bear in mind that almost all solid state amps, and many tube amps too, are "push-pull" i.e. balanced in their output stages.

    As I understand it, (I wish somebody would correct me if I'm wrong), on input, single-ended signals must be split and one side inverted to feed the push-pull output stages. With true balanced input, the splitting and inversion can be bypassed. I suppose the bypassing is a bit easier to do in case the bridged operation (??).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Then again I can't name a single manufacturer who makes truly balanced stereo amp at under $2500.
    Parasound makes one for about a grand. Halo A23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Great pic.

    Then again I can't name a single manufacturer who makes truly balanced stereo amp at under $2500.

    Whatchu think?
    My Parasound Halo A21 is fully balanced at $2200
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