[QUOTE=pixelthis][QUOTE=Mr Peabody][QUOTE=pixelthis]I am not "anti gun".
Doesnt anybody on this board have any reading comprehension skills?

* Yeah, everybody but you.

A libertarian once was asked how far the ownership of guns should go, and he replied
"well, if everybody was packin nukes there sure wouldnt be a 40% tax rate, now would there?".
That means that our govt no longer fears the people.
Fear a govt that doesnt fear the people

* A reason the people should bare arms. Heard of the minutemen?

I carried a gun for fifteen years as a law officer.
I know better than you.
Study after study has shown that the average joe tends to think there is more crime than there actually is, and I HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE THE CASE.
Add to the fact that training and experience tend to lead me not to worry as much over a
"gun totin maniac".
When they start lootin grocery stores then I will get a gun.
Until then you have a bigger threat from the govt than street thugs.
Street thugs arent nearly as well armed and tend to rob you only once.
The govt does it every year

* You have clearly lost touch with reality.

I like what Robert heinlein said about guns.
"You are a pink slug made up mostly of water, if you have a gun you are a pink slug
made mostly of water with a gun.
Robert Heinlein was a SCI-FI writer, some think one of the greatest, and also an ex
NAVY PILOT with seal training.

* Robert Heinlein did tricks for fish?

The fact that you dont understand this means that when (not if BUT WHEN) hungry
mobs start roaming the streets you should basically hope for a quick death.

* Why? my neighbor is fatter than me.

Handguns (the favorite target of liberals) is for short range work only.
And training needs to be constant as does maintenence, as with long guns.
As for the statement it is NOT philosopical, nor is it intended to be.
Basically it is saying that a human being is on average not that good in a fight,
and without training a gun doesnt improve his odds.
It depends more on teh fight in the dog than the dog in the fight

* Humans aren't good in a fight? What are you talking about? Against what? Other humans that aren't any good either? And, if said humans are fighting and only one had a gun my money is on that one.

Guns are a tool and can be quite handy.

* I'd say, especially against roming hungry mobs wanting to eat me.

Liberals think they are a totem of evil(most liberals are like savages with a complete
set of supersitous beleifs).
Read what I said,(or lay off of the sauce).
Liberals think GUNS are a totem of evil, and if you get rid of them you will have a "better" society, despite all evidence to the contrary.
They ignore what happened in England and Austrailia when guns were banned

* What did men do before guns? All of you answer this. They still killed each other with whatever they could get their hands on, arrows, spears, clubs etc. Getting rid of guns isn't going to make this a garden of Eden, men have to change their nature. You think that will happen? How do prisoners in jail kill each other? If some one is intent on killing they will find a way.

Here's some philosophy for you.
" You took his land and you ate his corn.
And on his grave your land was born
You took his pride and fed him dirt
You wished him winter without a shirt
And you called this red man savage
After you crushed him, you helped him up
To let him drink from a empty cup
You gave him the navy without the fleet
You made him lick your hand and kiss your feet
You called this mad dog savage
Well I found a book one day
Looked up red and white to see what it say
One was a savage, the other unlearned
Like a look in the mirror, the tables were turned
Because history has named you savage.....
------J D Blackfoot

Has nothing to do with anything

* Has to do with everything. They nature of man.

I am 25% indian BTW.

* I doubt that as I doubt you were every in law enforcement.
AMERICA NO LONGER BELONGED to the indians anymore than anybody else,
in fact they killed the original inhabitants when they first came here.
America is a vast land full of untold wealth, to expect it to be left alone so that
a bunch of savages can roam free on it(despoiling the land as much as any white man did)
would be naive, even for you. Somebody was going to move here.
And considering that the Chinese were here first and their colonies failed , the indian should consider themselves lucky.
If the Chinese (or vikings) had taken this land there would be few if any indians left

* Pure lunacy. What are you going to do when I walk my butt up in your house and make my self to home? Somebody was going to live there might as well be me. Oh, some one already does you say..... POW!! So now they don't. Honey tell the kids to get this blob off the floor and let's fire up this Vizio. Remind me next time to take over a house with a better TV.

I tell you one thing, without a means to defend yourself there is no political freedom
whatsoever.

* I tell, you, one thing, as long as our government is bought, and paid to think and act a certain way, THERE'S NO POLITICAL FREEDOM!!

Yeah, like, why would you go off into a corner and figure things out, because you obviously know everything about what you are talking about.
I will give you a clue, banning guns has NOTHING to do with criminal behaivor,
that is just a pretext for taking guns from the people they fear the most...
A WELL ARMED POPULACE.

* See, you are talking one thing and living another. You want to wait to get the flu before you take the shot. Here's a clue, at that point, it's too late.