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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Well i disagree with the hero comments and donth think they can fairly evaluate ALL kinds of equipment. If i were to vote then my vote would go for Y_Suradi, E-Stat, Bernd or Geof. I think it is important to keep a real open mind for alternative technologies in all price categories. Also it would be great to have a person review the equipment that actually has a real reference point and does not compare them to a Paradim box with a Yamaha receiver in my opinion. Room acoustics, experience in the digital and analog domain is also important.

    Edit: I know its a typical hard comment but i cant talk around the bush.
    Here we go again ! Mr Green as spoken ,do you have nightmare of Yamaha and Paradigm product.The people that we as members have a great deal of respect are mention Flo.You on the other side are digging yourself to a new low on the scale of respect.

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    I dont understand how my different opinion supposely lowers my respect on this site. I have gotten lots of thanks from numerous people on this site for my dedication of help which exeeds more then recommending Paradigm, B&W and Axiom ;-)

    No need to attack me, i was simply recommending users that i would be interested to read an article from. And if a few pople cannot understand my dedication and disagree with my opinion on how music should be reproduced then i can easily live with that.
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I dont understand how my different opinion supposely lowers my respect on this site. I have gotten lots of thanks from numerous people on this site for my dedication of help which exeeds more then recommending Paradigm, B&W and Axiom ;-)

    No need to attack me, i was simply recommending users that i would be interested to read an article from. And if a few pople cannot understand my dedication and disagree with my opinion on how music should be reproduced then i can easily live with that.
    Florian,
    I do not think anyone is attacking your opinion on how music should be reproduced. I think we disagree with the assertion that it takes a $40,000 speaker system to reproduce music correctly, or up to your snuff. Almost every day I work with audio equipment that costs as much as a house here in the bay area($500,000+), and quite often it doesn't sound any better than my own reference speaker system which costs MUCH less. A well made Paradigm or Axiom speaker system can sound as good, or better than many of the mega buck speakers found in stereophile and the other high end rags. Be ALOT more open minded about speakers in lower prices ranges, their performance may surprise you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Florian,
    I do not think anyone is attacking your opinion on how music should be reproduced. I think we disagree with the assertion that it takes a $40,000 speaker system to reproduce music correctly, or up to your snuff. Almost every day I work with audio equipment that costs as much as a house here in the bay area($500,000+), and quite often it doesn't sound any better than my own reference speaker system which costs MUCH less. A well made Paradigm or Axiom speaker system can sound as good, or better than many of the mega buck speakers found in stereophile and the other high end rags. Be ALOT more open minded about speakers in lower prices ranges, their performance may surprise you.
    Sir Terrence I totaly agree with you ,its not how thick your wallet is for your equipment.I do received lots of info from this site and I let my ears do the rest.As for Flo always putting the Yamaha receiver down and Paradigm I dont understant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I dont understand how my different opinion supposely lowers my respect on this site. I have gotten lots of thanks from numerous people on this site for my dedication of help which exeeds more then recommending Paradigm, B&W and Axiom ;-)

    No need to attack me, i was simply recommending users that i would be interested to read an article from. And if a few pople cannot understand my dedication and disagree with my opinion on how music should be reproduced then i can easily live with that.
    Your dedication and how music should be reproduced is from your narrow minded mind.Thank "God" there only one like you on this site.Go and listen to a few live Symphony ,classical music,rock concert ect ect and try to convince yourself you got the best equipment ever made to reproduce the best audio sound.Give me a break! You get into vinyl and now you probably think you have the best TT.

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    Well i disagree that any Paradigm or Axiom system gets even anywhere close to a good sound like a Genesis, Infinity IRS, Alon, Apogee etc.... no matter how you set it up.

    To Pat, your not using your brain and are judging me based on nothing. Bernd is like me, Y_Suriady, E-Stat (equipment wise) and there ARE TONS on audiogon or in the Apogee forum. Audioreview is a site for normal commercial systems and best bang for the buck and i thought i could bring in some other areas of audio too but its impossible on this site.

    Thats ok, ill just write less and less and finally stop entirely. There are too few people who accept that a well thougt out high end system will run miles around the commerical junk.
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Well i disagree that any Paradigm or Axiom system gets even anywhere close to a good sound like a Genesis, Infinity IRS, Alon, Apogee etc.... no matter how you set it up.

    To Pat, your not using your brain and are judging me based on nothing. Bernd is like me, Y_Suriady, E-Stat (equipment wise) and there ARE TONS on audiogon or in the Apogee forum. Audioreview is a site for normal commercial systems and best bang for the buck and i thought i could bring in some other areas of audio too but its impossible on this site.

    Thats ok, ill just write less and less and finally stop entirely. There are too few people who accept that a well thougt out high end system will run miles around the commerical junk.
    Im judging you by your childish behavior,your sarcasm thought on what the perfect system is in your mind, while cutting anybody that does'nt have what you think is the best out there or follow your" QUEST".None of the guys you mention are bragging or have a bias on what others have.Most of them also will help others while you try to help your cause.I know you are knowledgeable ,but to preach us on your belief on what is the ultimate system for proper listening pleasure and you own it .My system is entry level and Im proud of it.Yours in my book would be Mid level .In the high end would be in the $100,000 +.This is my opinion on what people spend for their system ,is it better I hope so.I dont play show and tell and dont need to and dont care .
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