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    LCD is dead!

    Sorry Pix. Couldn't resist. But it does look like plasma is the display of the future.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/home-theater/?p=2336

    Like offerings from its plasma rival Samsung, Panasonic has announced that its 3D sets will be plasma-based. The company is planning five different models due in the spring that are ready for 3D viewing and each include one pair of active-shutter 3D glasses.

    The lineup includes a pair of 50-inch sets, the TC-P50VT20 and TC-P50VT25, the 54-inch TC-P54VT2, the 58-inch TC-P58VT25, and the 65-inch TC-P65VT25. All of them are THX Display certified and come with a wireless adapter to help them work with Viera Cast, Panasonic’s connnected TV service that will be greatly improved with the new addition of apps from Skype, Twitter, Netflix, and Pandora. The company will be releasing the sets in the spring, but like Sony and Samsung with their 3D TVs, it’s keeping its pricing mum.

    And like Sony and Samsung, Panasonic also has a 3D Blu-ray player on the way. DMP-BDT350 plays standard DVDs and 2D Blu-ray discs along with the (eventual) 3D Blu-ray discs, and includes the usual Blu-ray specs, like built-in networking and support for 7.1 channel lossless audio and Dolby True HD and DTS HD surround sound processing. Pricing again is not yet available, but the DMP-BDT350 is due in the spring.
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    My understanding is that one requirement for 3D HD is a refresh rate of 120 Hz so that it can alternate 60-frame video signals. Given that the fastest plasma refresh rate so far has been Panasonic's 96 Hz mode, it seems that both Panny and Samsung have overcome whatever technical hurdles (if any) existed to bump the refresh rate up to 120 Hz on a plasma panel. And that would actually be welcome news for plain old 2D viewing if those sets also implement the anti-judder features correctly (i.e. with 5:5 frame repeating, and the option to switch off any motion interpolation processing).

    This is a curious move on the part of Samsung, given that they have been putting so much marketing behind their LED LCD TVs. The only issue I can think of would be if their 3D glasses use some form of polarization that creates image shifting like what you see when looking at an LCD display with polarized sunglasses on.

    And the glasses themselves are my next point of curiosity. They obviously darken the image. I wonder how this plays with the color accuracy and if there's a different calibration that needs to be done with the brightness and contrast for 3D content.
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    plasma has always been the poor stepchild, lacking in tech and features.
    Couldnt compete with CRT HDTV, sold "extended res) 480p when RPTV CRT was 1080i.
    Now that LCD is all but 1080p in higher pic sizes, plasma has reverted to 720P
    in order to compete.
    You can get a 50" Sanyo plasma for around 700 bucks at Walfart.
    And yet they are having trouble giving away this inferiour product, in spite of teh larger screen.
    The "future"?
    A MAD MAX future, maybe.
    OTHERWISE....PLASMA IS

    DEAD


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    Pix you can get Panasonic 50" Plasma at Costco for $799.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    My understanding is that one requirement for 3D HD is a refresh rate of 120 Hz so that it can alternate 60-frame video signals. Given that the fastest plasma refresh rate so far has been Panasonic's 96 Hz mode, it seems that both Panny and Samsung have overcome whatever technical hurdles (if any) existed to bump the refresh rate up to 120 Hz on a plasma panel. And that would actually be welcome news for plain old 2D viewing if those sets also implement the anti-judder features correctly (i.e. with 5:5 frame repeating, and the option to switch off any motion interpolation processing).

    This is a curious move on the part of Samsung, given that they have been putting so much marketing behind their LED LCD TVs. The only issue I can think of would be if their 3D glasses use some form of polarization that creates image shifting like what you see when looking at an LCD display with polarized sunglasses on.

    And the glasses themselves are my next point of curiosity. They obviously darken the image. I wonder how this plays with the color accuracy and if there's a different calibration that needs to be done with the brightness and contrast for 3D content.
    I know my Sony Cell television has a 3D pre-setting that ups the brightness with polarized glasses so that it maintains the SMPTE and THX spec while outputting 3D. I am sure alot of 3D capable televisions will also have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    plasma has always been the poor stepchild, lacking in tech and features.
    Couldnt compete with CRT HDTV, sold "extended res) 480p when RPTV CRT was 1080i.
    Now that LCD is all but 1080p in higher pic sizes, plasma has reverted to 720P
    in order to compete.
    You can get a 50" Sanyo plasma for around 700 bucks at Walfart.
    And yet they are having trouble giving away this inferiour product, in spite of teh larger screen.
    The "future"?
    A MAD MAX future, maybe.
    OTHERWISE....PLASMA IS

    DEAD


    Heh heh heh...

    I feel like such a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    Pix you can get Panasonic 50" Plasma at Costco for $799.

    YEP...
    720P, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Heh heh heh...

    I feel like such a troll.

    Consider that your CHRISTMAS PRESENT...
    After all. I AM in such a good mood after a certain football team cut em a steak
    from a certain Texas team.
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    Steak? I get a steak for Christmas? Way cool. Where do I pick it up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Steak? I get a steak for Christmas? Way cool. Where do I pick it up?
    The only steak you're getting is made of oak and has a pointy end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    The only steak you're getting is made of oak and has a pointy end.
    No thanks. I'm not THAT hungry.
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    Plasma is dead. LCD is live and kicking

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    Quote Originally Posted by usbmusic
    Plasma is dead. LCD is live and kicking

    AMEN BROTHER

    Can you dig it!
    Bury it next to 8track, videodisc, laser, etc.
    CAN I get a witness?
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    Hilareous! Pix has figured out a way to create a second usermane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Hilareous! Pix has figured out a way to create a second usermane.

    Now why on earth would you think that I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS SEEN THE LIGHT?
    That the Emperour has no clothes.
    You may have several people bouncing around in that shorted out contraption you call a brain(guess electroshock can do that to ya) but not I sir.
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