Blu-ray players out selling HD-DVD despite...

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Lets see next week, after the Transformers comes out. Over on the PS3/BluRay boards everyone about soiled themselves when they realized it was going to be HD-DVD.

Percentage of sales should be a bit skewed next week. What came out last week? I don't think much for HD-DVD.

Groundbeef, spare us your fanboyism. Everyone knew when Paramount was paid to stop supporting bluray that Transformers was not going to come to bluray. Its now been a couple of months since the deal transpired. So if anyone soiled themselves on this, they did it in your imagination. That is all.........

[PeruvianSkies]

Groundbeef, spare us your fanboyism. Everyone knew when Paramount was paid to stop supporting bluray that Transformers was not going to come to bluray. Its now been a couple of months since the deal transpired. So if anyone soiled themselves on this, they did it in your imagination. That is all.........

Will you spare us your elitism in exchange?

[ericl]

this format war sucks big time. i would have bought a player months and months ago had there been one option.. now, i'm going to have to wait a year or more.. lame

[ericl]

freakin transformers is a perfect example.. i'd go with a blu-ray player, but TF is exactly the type of movie i'd want in HD. boooo!

[GMichael]

I see a PS3 in my near future.

[Groundbeef]

Groundbeef, spare us your fanboyism. Everyone knew when Paramount was paid to stop supporting bluray that Transformers was not going to come to bluray. Its now been a couple of months since the deal transpired. So if anyone soiled themselves on this, they did it in your imagination. That is all.........

That is all what? Did your brain shutdown after your hit the period?

Lets get a couple things out in the open here Mr. T. What exactly is wrong with being a fan? Companies love them, heck the industry needs them to promote their format. So unless you have something else to add, your just making more of a fool of yourself. Tired of getting your ass handed to you on the other thread, and thought you would try over here?

Second, is it worse to have an opinion about something, and not be receiving compensation for it? I mean, you seem to have it out for "industry insiders":

GB, if you are going to make a point on this issue, chose sources that are not interested parties.

You blindly believe sales figures quoted by an interested party, and take the spin as truth.

I am quick to point out that I do not listen to any sales figures, stats, or any twisted information coming from either Sony nor the BDA.

...don't listen to interested parties, they parcel and filter out information as to only suit their cause...

I use Sony source when its appropriate.

These are all quotes directly pulled from your responses on other threads relating to HD-DVD/BluRay. Then this little tidbit caught my eye:

I have over 120 HD DVD movies, and oh, I work for a studio that is exclusive to bluray.

And that doesn't call into question your intent on forwarding the BR cause? If I'm a "fanboy" as you put it, I guess you are an industry whore. Lets call a spade a spade.

[L.J.]

I see a PS3 in my near future.

Add Pirates to that list. Excellent demo matl

[GMichael]

Add Pirates to that list. Excellent demo matl

Oh yeah,

That's on my short list.

I hope they still have the 5 or 7 free movie offer when I'm ready.

The new 40G looks like it will fill my needs. I don't have any PS2 games now to worry about BC. There was a rumour that it wouldn't play SACD's, but I see it on the list of playback medium on several other links. Just have to look close before I pull the trigger.

Also depends on what packages they come out with for the 60G. Looks like they have excess stock on those. They may start making some deals to move them soon. A second wireless remote and a game to start off with would get my vote.

[L.J.]

Oh yeah,

That's on my short list.

I hope they still have the 5 or 7 free movie offer when I'm ready.

The new 40G looks like it will fill my needs. I don't have any PS2 games now to worry about BC. There was a rumour that it wouldn't play SACD's, but I see it on the list of playback medium on several other links. Just have to look close before I pull the trigger.

Also depends on what packages they come out with for the 60G. Looks like they have excess stock on those. They may start making some deals to move them soon. A second wireless remote and a game to start off with would get my vote.

GM, where are you finding specs on the 40g at?

[GMichael]

GM, where are you finding specs on the 40g at?

I get a Google alert each day with news on the PS3. Some of the specs were from the UK. Some were from Best Buy. If you Google "PS3 news" You'll get plenty of hits. Most of them are just rumours though. You'll have to sift through the BS.

[basite]

this format war sucks big time. i would have bought a player months and months ago had there been one option.. now, i'm going to have to wait a year or more.. lame

HE LIVES!!!

it's been a long while since you've posted here

Anyhow, I think blu ray will win this war anyways, because people see this as a new format. Unlike HD-DVD, which they think is just an "upgraded version" of a standard dvd...

nevertheless, it's a stupid war

[GMichael]

HE LIVES!!!

it's been a long while since you've posted here

Anyhow, I think blu ray will win this war anyways, because people see this as a new format. Unlike HD-DVD, which they think is just an "upgraded version" of a standard dvd...

nevertheless, it's a stupid war

It's a (can I say it?) a cold war....................

[kexodusc]

HE LIVES!!!

it's been a long while since you've posted here

Anyhow, I think blu ray will win this war anyways, because people see this as a new format. Unlike HD-DVD, which they think is just an "upgraded version" of a standard dvd...

nevertheless, it's a stupid war

Yeah, I tend to think BluRay is the safer bet too - for no other reason than the PS3. The fact that BluRay is tied in with it suggests to me that it will be supported for at least the next several years, which is more guarantee than I get from HD-DVD camp. PS3 eventually will sell millions of units, even if it falls to #3 in the console war, and even if Sony is forced to practically give the things away just to minimize the billions they lose on it. Throw in the universal players, the and the off-brands, and I think it's safe to say BluRay won't finish anywhere below a draw with HD-DVD and should have a product life long enough for people to get their money's worth before movie downloads or whatever comes next.

The stupidest thing about this format "war" was that it wasn't really a war at all...at least not one decided by consumers - some of the big studios, and Microsoft, in their market-defiant stupidity elected to take the exlusivity approach rather than letting consumers decide. These camps have to know that mutual destruction is likely the most probable outcome - which I think is exactly what Microsoft wants while it continues to work on its downloading services, and would even be a moral victory for Toshiba if the DVD life continues to extend into the future before eventually being replaced,. Smart business move for Microsoft, bad for us though.

Oh well. The prices are getting low enough that I'm tempted to splurge here and get an HD-DVD player first. I figure there's a dozen or so titles I could enjoy - then in a year or so when I likely buy a PS3 I'll have myself hedged. Only problem is there's so few movies from either that really pique my interest at this point...Maybe in a few more months, or after Christmas when sales drop and prices might be a bit more favorable. But I'm not sitting on the fence forever...

[Groundbeef]

I get a Google alert each day with news on the PS3. Some of the specs were from the UK. Some were from Best Buy. If you Google "PS3 news" You'll get plenty of hits. Most of them are just rumours though. You'll have to sift through the BS.

I think that if you are on the fence for the 40GB, you might just bite on the 60GB "clearance". After they are gone, then the 80GB is supposed to take the top price spot. From what I have read, the 40GB is a rather open "secret" as Sony doesn't want to introduce until after the 60GB inventory is gone. Don't want to leave a bunch of orphens.

The 60GB has better BW compatiblity, as there is some sort of hardware chip inside to help. The 40GB drops it in a cost saving measure. I don't know how much they are saving, but even a couple of dollars per unit is a substancial savings.

Here is some info about the system, and apparently its dropping 10/28 w/ spiderman 3 and a controller.

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/2845/2/

Here's a pretty decent site for all PS3 news:

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/

It is a collection of news stories related to PS3. Scroll to the bottom, and there is a whole collection of news sites. Engadget HD is pretty good. Lots of HD info on new systems, TV's, and HD players.

[GMichael]

I think that if you are on the fence for the 40GB, you might just bite on the 60GB "clearance". After they are gone, then the 80GB is supposed to take the top price spot. From what I have read, the 40GB is a rather open "secret" as Sony doesn't want to introduce until after the 60GB inventory is gone. Don't want to leave a bunch of orphens.

The 60GB has better BW compatiblity, as there is some sort of hardware chip inside to help. The 40GB drops it in a cost saving measure. I don't know how much they are saving, but even a couple of dollars per unit is a substancial savings.

Here is some info about the system, and apparently its dropping 10/28 w/ spiderman 3 and a controller.

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/2845/2/

Here's a pretty decent site for all PS3 news:

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/

It is a collection of news stories related to PS3. Scroll to the bottom, and there is a whole collection of news sites. Engadget HD is pretty good. Lots of HD info on new systems, TV's, and HD players.

That's what I've been hearing too. I'd rather get the 60GB, especially if it comes in a decent package/bundle. I don't see myself buying any PS2 games, but why not have the option if available? The upgrades they are making to the 40GB seem very minor at best. Uses a little less power. A little more wireless range. Not sure if either add up to much.

I'm waiting to see what the next few weeks bring.

[L.J.]

I'll second going with the 60g. I pick up a few PS2 games every now and then. Can't beat getting games for under $10 to keep the kid happy for awhile. He doesn't care about HD. Also, my wife enjoys the gameshow type games like wheel of fortune or family feud. We pull those out when we have guests over too.

And the simple fact that I already own about 60 or 70 PS1&PS2 games already doesn't hurt much either

[GMichael]

I'll second going with the 60g. I pick up a few PS2 games every now and then. Can't beat getting games for under $10 to keep the kid happy for awhile. He doesn't care about HD. Also, my wife enjoys the gameshow type games like wheel of fortune or family feud. We pull those out when we have guests over too.

And the simple fact that I already own about 60 or 70 PS1&PS2 games already doesn't hurt much either

I think the 40GB will still play the PS1 games. Just no PS2 games, yet, with no intentions of upgrades, yet. Sony. Can't live with them, can't grind them into dust.

Great point about the game shows though. Thanks. My wife may make me run out this weekend and buy one so she can play that Wheel-O-Fortune game. For once, I'll be the one saying, "Not yet. Just wait!"

[PeruvianSkies]

Not sure about anyone else, but I am really happy to see EYES WIDE SHUT, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, and a CLOCKWORK ORANGE coming to the HD formats, which FULL METAL JACKET already was for those fellow Kubrick fans. I will be very interested to see how they look!!!!!!

[GMichael]

Not sure about anyone else, but I am really happy to see EYES WIDE SHUT, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, and a CLOCKWORK ORANGE coming to the HD formats, which FULL METAL JACKET already was for those fellow Kubrick fans. I will be very interested to see how they look!!!!!!

They won't look the same as the film though.

[Groundbeef]

They won't look the same as the film though.

Must you needle him? With the exception of Sir Clueless around here its been pretty quiet.

[GMichael]

Must you needle him? With the exception of Sir Clueless around here its been pretty quiet.

Just a friendly poke. At least I didn't call anyone clueless.

Oops,.......

[L.J.]

Wow, you guys are starting to get way to sensitive around here

[Groundbeef]

Just a friendly poke. At least I didn't call anyone clueless.

Oops,.......

Oh, you're right. Terrance, Clueless, I just hit the wrong key I guess.

KEX, clean out your mailbox. Tried to return your PM and its full. Wouldn't take.

[Mr Peabody]

Our local news did a story on the analog TV being turned off in 2009 and said there are going to be some PSA's hitting the air to alert people to the change. Good timing right before Christmas, ay? It will be interesting to see if it spurs any upswing in sales of either HDTV's or HD disc players. Then again, how would we actually know if it had any effect. They did also mention the $40.00 voucher toward the con-verter.

[Groundbeef]

Our local news did a story on the analog TV being turned off in 2009 and said there are going to be some PSA's hitting the air to alert people to the change. Good timing right before Christmas, ay? It will be interesting to see if it spurs any upswing in sales of either HDTV's or HD disc players. Then again, how would we actually know if it had any effect. They did also mention the $40.00 voucher toward the con-verter.

Main effect will be people with older TV's who use OTA for their TV watching. If you have cable, your "box" will convert it. If you don't currently need a "box" you might have to get one from your provider.

Sat won't be affected, as it is already digital.

But yes, you can bet your ass that every sales weasel at BB, or CC will be drumming this one right over to the ol' plasma/LCD display.