Blu-ray caters to collectors, hddvd caters to renters, simple as that.[/QUOTE]

How do you figure that?

Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
I hope blu wins, because its the more advanced format, and if we must have a hd disc, lets go with the more advanced.
Well, not if they continue to downsample the sound (according to Wooch). I've also read that HD-DVD has an edge on sound quality.

Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
...AND heres another thing, with all of this great sound how about some concert discs? Or music video collections?
I think here again, HD-DVD has greater potential because of the Universal alliance and their desperation to compete. Sony has a good catalog too, but I think (and this is just speculation) that they will also be late to the party with music and concert disks.

Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
Anyway great toshiba lost, I hate em, everything I had tosh either broke, malfunctioned or underperformed or was poorly designed
Whoa, there. I've had the opposite experience. I think this is ultimately a matter of product lines and models (probably affected by a specific part supplier), rather than systemic in a company.

I think the best resolution is not a defeat of one side or the other, but rather some kind of truce. Consumers would fare much better if the formats worked things out. What if Universal or Microsoft refused to throw in the towel and doggedly refused to offer Blu-Ray solutions, for example? This would ultimately hurt the consumers more than anyone else.