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    I was just being sarcastic about Sony's reliability and durability history. Your article suggests HD-DVD is seriously at a durability disadvantage if it is indeed only as tough as CD and DVD. Then again, I can count on 1 hand the number of times in the last 10 years I've had durability issues with media. And I dare say those few times would probably have damaged a BluRay as well...At least it's good to hear it's not a soft format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I was just being sarcastic about Sony's reliability and durability history. Your article suggests HD-DVD is seriously at a durability disadvantage if it is indeed only as tough as CD and DVD. Then again, I can count on 1 hand the number of times in the last 10 years I've had durability issues with media. And I dare say those few times would probably have damaged a BluRay as well...At least it's good to hear it's not a soft format.
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    Actually without the hardcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I was just being sarcastic about Sony's reliability and durability history. Your article suggests HD-DVD is seriously at a durability disadvantage if it is indeed only as tough as CD and DVD. Then again, I can count on 1 hand the number of times in the last 10 years I've had durability issues with media. And I dare say those few times would probably have damaged a BluRay as well...At least it's good to hear it's not a soft format.
    The BlueRay disks were so unreliable that they would have to be hard jacketed (like a floppy) for fear of damage. The hardcoat tech is what made them even viable in the first place. This hardcoat tech can be applied to ALL hard plastic based media, not just BlueRay where it's ABSOLUTELY nessassary. The real fact is that the focus point for the BlueRay disk is so close to the surface that just a light fingerprint can make it unreadable.
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    Oh man, I'm confused now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffcin
    The BlueRay disks were so unreliable that they would have to be hard jacketed (like a floppy) for fear of damage. The hardcoat tech is what made them even viable in the first place. This hardcoat tech can be applied to ALL hard plastic based media, not just BlueRay where it's ABSOLUTELY nessassary. The real fact is that the focus point for the BlueRay disk is so close to the surface that just a light fingerprint can make it unreadable.
    I won't pretend to be an expert on this subject, but either the laser gets through or it doesn't? Right? That finger print either impedes the laser or not? If it can read the disc, and the disc isn't damaged physically, how is BluRay or HD-DVD affected by the proximity of the focus point to the surface?
    Isn't it just a question of being too gooey to see through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I won't pretend to be an expert on this subject, but either the laser gets through or it doesn't? Right? That finger print either impedes the laser or not? If it can read the disc, and the disc isn't damaged physically, how is BluRay or HD-DVD affected by the proximity of the focus point to the surface?
    Isn't it just a question of being too gooey to see through?
    The closer the focal point to the obstruction the more the laser ability to read the data will be affected.

    It's the same effect as photography. Something in the nearfield that's out of focus will not cause too much of a problem with making out what the focused subject is. ie. if there's a "softening" filter on the front of your lens, you can still make out the subject. Bob "vaseline" Guccione was a master of this effect.
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    Hey, I'm not the only guy with that nickname...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffcin
    The closer the focal point to the obstruction the more the laser ability to read the data will be affected.

    It's the same effect as photography. Something in the nearfield that's out of focus will not cause too much of a problem with making out what the focused subject is. ie. if there's a "softening" filter on the front of your lens, you can still make out the subject. Bob "vaseline" Guccione was a master of this effect.
    Tell the truth, Geoffcin, you're just making this stuff up, aren't you?
    So if I get this right now...as long as it's clean, it should work, but the surface is pretty darn durable?
    Okay...I can handle that.

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    You got it!

    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Tell the truth, Geoffcin, you're just making this stuff up, aren't you?
    So if I get this right now...as long as it's clean, it should work, but the surface is pretty darn durable?
    Okay...I can handle that.
    The surface of a BlueRay disk will have to be absolutely clean. So far as durability, that will be determined when and if they are in general use.

    Not making it up; Used to be deep into photography before I got married. (she won't let me do it anymore ) Try a little vaseline on a UV filter over the lens for those private moment shots.....
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