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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Smokester, they use disc's for calibration, not things like a sencore color generator, analyzer, or snell and wilcox hot plates(exceptionally high quality color and pattern generator and extremely accurate analyer) to calibrate. What they do, you could do for a smaller investment

    my thoughts exactly.
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    I'm willing to bet for a price of $299, they are only calibrating the DVD input and the sound system. I'm also willing to bet it doesn't include any adjustments within the service menu. This would be necessary if you want the customer's default settings to be the calibrated settings. The $500 price sound more like the cost of a full calibration, which usually runs approx. $165/input. To me BB calibration is better than nothing at all, but shouldn't be labeled an ISF calibration.
    I've been through ISF calibration classes and own a Sencore P403 video signal generator. I've performed many calibrations and feel it's necessary to use the service menu. If the default setting are not the calibrated settings, the customer, their children, or friends can change the settings and unless they're recorded, will require reclaibration.
    I'm not sure how they would be able to adjust to D6500 without a sensor to determine the correct proportions of RGB.
    Probably for the general public, their calibration is of value as long as they include the satellite/cable input. What usually happens is people get so used to the "Torch Mode" set by the manufacturer, correct calibration tends to look dull, so they end up changing the setting anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfalls
    I'm willing to bet for a price of $299, they are only calibrating the DVD input and the sound system. I'm also willing to bet it doesn't include any adjustments within the service menu. This would be necessary if you want the customer's default settings to be the calibrated settings. The $500 price sound more like the cost of a full calibration, which usually runs approx. $165/input. To me BB calibration is better than nothing at all, but shouldn't be labeled an ISF calibration.
    I've been through ISF calibration classes and own a Sencore P403 video signal generator. I've performed many calibrations and feel it's necessary to use the service menu. If the default setting are not the calibrated settings, the customer, their children, or friends can change the settings and unless they're recorded, will require reclaibration.
    I'm not sure how they would be able to adjust to D6500 without a sensor to determine the correct proportions of RGB.
    Probably for the general public, their calibration is of value as long as they include the satellite/cable input. What usually happens is people get so used to the "Torch Mode" set by the manufacturer, correct calibration tends to look dull, so they end up changing the setting anyway.
    I think BB is counting on a couple of things. The folks who truely know about calibration will not call them, so ignorance is bliss for those who do. They know you are not going to pay a "REAL" technician to come out and check their results, and they know you DON'T have the equipment to check after they leave or you wouldn't have called them in the first place. They are going to calibrate one input, with a calibration disc that covers both audio and video. That is what you are getting for that price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfalls
    I've been through ISF calibration classes and own a Sencore P403 video signal generator. I've performed many calibrations and feel it's necessary to use the service menu.
    They don't have no choice but to enter the service menu If they want to change TV's color temperature or correct gray scaling. If they only use the disc and TV's onscreen menu, (as you said) then it shoudn't be called an ISF calibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    They don't have no choice but to enter the service menu If they want to change TV's color temperature or correct gray scaling. If they only use the disc and TV's onscreen menu, (as you said) then it shoudn't be called an ISF calibration.

    Agreed, but how long has it been since you've bought a TV?
    My set has seperate (red, green, blue) color temp settings and a master setting.
    As for the poster who mentioned "torch" mode, my sets default for bright and contrast is set at 50 as a default.
    Of course for geometry and a few other setings you'd need the service
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    MY brothers plasma has a similar temp setup , BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Agreed, but how long has it been since you've bought a TV? My set has seperate (red, green, blue) color temp settings and a master setting.
    I have noticed that few new LCD TV such as yours (I think Samasung also) do include color temperature adjustments in their user menu. Are they any use to achieve 6500 k color temperature??

    As I recall, one really need six set of settings (Cutoff and Drive for each three primary colors) to achieve color gray scale in both low and high light output.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Smokey, bottom line... DON'T call the friggin' Geek Squad to cal your TV. OKAY? I don't agree that it takes extreme measures to get a cal technician out to your house.
    Thanks Rich.

    I like to calibrate my TV using TV's service manual. It is not really hard to do if one know what to look for, and have alot of patient

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