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    M.P.S.E /AES/SMPTE member Sir Terrence the Terrible's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    Projection only for this year that has not yet finished. Empirically, the answer was 7.5% for 2011. Do you have any data to suggest that it will more than double as the projection I posted suggests?
    NDP aggregates all 3D sales which includes 3DTV's, software and projectors. When 3D projectors are included in the mix, it does more than double the 7.5% from 2011. Also keep in mind, they are tracking 3D televisions only, projector sales are not included in that 7.5%. With projector prices falling like they are, their sales are really surging right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    Outpace increase, but far from meeting total sales numbers
    Since we don't know what the total sales numbers are, this statement is misleading.



    Of the total sales I referenced in my previous post of 37.1 M units, this data says the 3D market will be 15% this year.

    If you have other data, please reference it.
    NDP reports are what I use. That 15% is just one segment of the market. The other segment is 3D projectors - and they put 3D sales past your quoted 15%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Since we don't know what the total sales numbers are, this statement is misleading.
    For 2012. For 2011, the answer was 7.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    NDP reports are what I use.
    Are you able to substantiate your claims with a link to data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    For 2012. For 2011, the answer was 7.5%
    That's for televisions only. Do you not think including 3D projectors is important to report as well? You can watch 3D on it, and that is why people buy them. So for televisions it was 7.5%. When you add in 3D projectors, it goes well past your 7.5%


    Are you able to substantiate your claims with a link to data?
    Sorry, but NDP reports are not on the net. If they were, they would not be worth the money they charge for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Sorry, but NDP reports are not on the net. If they were, they would not be worth the money they charge for them.
    So what are the numbers? Do they conflict with the linked sources I provided?

    Sorry, you're not convincing anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    So what are the numbers? Do they conflict with the linked sources I provided?

    Sorry, you're not convincing anyone.
    Yes they do conflict because your linked sources do not include 3D projector sales. The NDP reports do. Can't you get that through your thick skull? Logic would dictate if 7.5% represents televisions sales, when you include 3D projector sales, it would push the total past 7.5%

    Ralph, you should know by now I am not interested in convincing you, or anyone else. According to NDP, your sales figures fall short of the overall picture. You cannot cherry pick stats, and create a whole picture out of the partial data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Logic would dictate if 7.5% represents televisions sales, when you include 3D projector sales, it would push the total past 7.5%
    Minimally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    I am not interested in convincing you, or anyone else.
    Obviously because you have nothing to back your claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat View Post
    Minimally.
    You don't know that, you don't have the figures do you?


    Obviously because you have nothing to back your claims.
    Oh I have it alright, the problem is you don't . Sorry about that......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    You don't know that, you don't have the figures do you?
    You mean like your empty claims? LOL!

    How many projectors does Best Buy and Wal-Mart sell for every 100 flat screens? 2? 4? Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey View Post
    Even with %15 increase which include coming holiday sales, 3-D TVs only makes %6 of total TVs in US household.
    Good point. It will take a while to roll over existing units.

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