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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    I wonder how much longer Blockbuster stores will be open, $1.50 still saves $3.50 over a BB rental or PPV. I think I could drive a couple blocks to save $3.50. And the actual disc will have better quality. Of course, with BB you can keep the movie for 5 days or so, this would make them a better value if you weren't diligent on returning the movie in one night.
    The other issue is simple selection. Redbox kiosks carry fewer titles than a typical BB store.

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    If Wal Mart was smart they just would have ordered enough inventroy for customers and Redbox.
    T already covered this, but bottomline is that Redbox was cleaning the stores out on release day. Whatever got put on shelves, their reps were buying up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    I wonder how many movies are released that people are willing to buy before watching/renting? Not many in my case.
    How many movies do you watch in theaters without having seen them first? Probably most if not all of them. It's the same dynamic that goes into buying DVDs.

    Your question doesn't acknowledge how the home video market changed from being driven by rentals to one driven by sell-through. Think about how much it costs to see a movie at a theater. Once the street prices for new release DVDs dropped down to around $20, the demand skyrocketed because that was close to price parity with the cost of two movie tickets.

    Add the bonus features, and people had incentive to buy DVDs and take in the movie and bonus features at their own pace. And if the DVD truly isn't worth keeping, there's always the option of selling it to a used music/video store.
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    How many movies do you watch in theaters without having seen them first? Probably most if not all of them. It's the same dynamic that goes into buying DVDs.
    NOT REALLY.
    The difference is that there is no outlet to see a movie before you see it in a theater.
    HENCE movie trailers.
    But I would never buy a DVD without seeing it first, either rental or the theater.
    Because I AM not adding a movie to the collection until I KNOW I want a copy.
    I do buy a MOVIE sometimes without knowing the content, but very rarely.




    Your question doesn't acknowledge how the home video market changed from being driven by rentals to one driven by sell-through. Think about how much it costs to see a movie at a theater. Once the street prices for new release DVDs dropped down to around $20, the demand skyrocketed because that was close to price parity with the cost of two movie tickets.
    STILL CHEAPER TO RENT.
    And rental is still important, its just that rentals shifted from B&M to pay-per view, net, etc



    Add the bonus features, and people had incentive to buy DVDs and take in the movie and bonus features at their own pace. And if the DVD truly isn't worth keeping, there's always the option of selling it to a used music/video store.
    The often badly done "bonus" features are hardly an incentive to buy a DVD.
    And the used stores are a shrinking option.
    Last time I went in there the few that sold went cheap, most the guy wouldnt touch,
    and they were popular and nearly new titles.
    BASICALLY THEY CANT sell "used" and make money, when you can get them at a grocery store for three bucks brand new.
    Thats right...THREE BUCKS.
    A big yellow box, DVDs' repackaged in clear cases, stuff like the new war of the worlds,
    three bucks each.
    Walmart. besides their bargain bin, has DVDs packaged two to a pack, ten bucks.
    An X MEN and DIE HARD collection, both ten bucks.
    AT THESE PRICES THERE IS NO RESALE MARKET, BASICALLY.
    Didnt expect DVD to die as fast as laser, and it isnt, but the stores are packed with them.
    Main reason is the economy, its still cheaper to rent, mostly, and entertainment
    is down on the list.
    And if you just push a button and order one off of cable/sat, you don't have to pay for it for awhile, great for when you're three days from payday and broke.
    Which makes PAYPERVIEW free, for all pratical purposes.
    And like the old gal said...
    YOU CAN'T BEAT FREE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    NOT REALLY.
    The difference is that there is no outlet to see a movie before you see it in a theater.
    HENCE movie trailers.
    But I would never buy a DVD without seeing it first, either rental or the theater.
    Because I AM not adding a movie to the collection until I KNOW I want a copy.
    I do buy a MOVIE sometimes without knowing the content, but very rarely.






    STILL CHEAPER TO RENT.
    And rental is still important, its just that rentals shifted from B&M to pay-per view, net, etc





    The often badly done "bonus" features are hardly an incentive to buy a DVD.
    And the used stores are a shrinking option.
    Last time I went in there the few that sold went cheap, most the guy wouldnt touch,
    and they were popular and nearly new titles.
    BASICALLY THEY CANT sell "used" and make money, when you can get them at a grocery store for three bucks brand new.
    Thats right...THREE BUCKS.
    A big yellow box, DVDs' repackaged in clear cases, stuff like the new war of the worlds,
    three bucks each.
    Walmart. besides their bargain bin, has DVDs packaged two to a pack, ten bucks.
    An X MEN and DIE HARD collection, both ten bucks.
    AT THESE PRICES THERE IS NO RESALE MARKET, BASICALLY.
    Didnt expect DVD to die as fast as laser, and it isnt, but the stores are packed with them.
    Main reason is the economy, its still cheaper to rent, mostly, and entertainment
    is down on the list.
    And if you just push a button and order one off of cable/sat, you don't have to pay for it for awhile, great for when you're three days from payday and broke.
    Which makes PAYPERVIEW free, for all pratical purposes.
    And like the old gal said...
    YOU CAN'T BEAT FREE.
    Your assertion that badly done bonus features on DVD is hardly a sell is not found in fact. Over and over surveys and focus groups have stated that extra value content is a motivator in their purchases. They see the film only as not a good value, which is why extra features are on just about every DVD or Blu ray disc. More people want extra feature than don't want them by a huge percentage.

    The DVD format is officially in sunset right now - hence why you find them so cheap. The same happened with VHS once DVD had a foothold in the market.

    If you have to pay for it no matter when, there is no such thing as free payperview. The name "pay per view" is absolute, even if paying the piper is delayed.
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    [QUOTE]
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Your assertion that badly done bonus features on DVD is hardly a sell is not found in fact. Over and over surveys and focus groups have stated that extra value content is a motivator in their purchases. They see the film only as not a good value, which is why extra features are on just about every DVD or Blu ray disc. More people want extra feature than don't want them by a huge percentage.
    Most dont realize what they pay for these "features".
    A cheaper version for movie lovers that dont care about "online content, some
    airhead starts comments", etc would be appriciated


    The DVD format is officially in sunset right now - hence why you find them so cheap. The same happened with VHS once DVD had a foothold in the market.
    No kidding

    If you have to pay for it no matter when, there is no such thing as free payperview. The name "pay per view" is absolute, even if paying the piper is delayed.
    SAME THING IS TRUE ABOUT "FREE GOVT HEALTH CARE.
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    A FIVE DOLLAR CHARGE mixed into a huge cable bill is hardly noticed, and when you're broke you can watch a movie and delay payment.
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    [QUOTE=pixelthis]

    Most dont realize what they pay for these "features".
    A cheaper version for movie lovers that dont care about "online content, some
    airhead starts comments", etc would be appriciated
    We could do without your airhead comments, but do we get that pleasure...nope. As long as people want "these features" they will be included whether you like it or not. Get used to it.


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    SAME THING IS TRUE ABOUT "FREE GOVT HEALTH CARE.
    Obvious that you dont understand a thing about human nature.
    A FIVE DOLLAR CHARGE mixed into a huge cable bill is hardly noticed, and when you're broke you can watch a movie and delay payment.
    BS. When money it tight, people go over their bills with a fine tooth comb. They will notice a five dollar charge...rather easily I might add. And these days, folks are dumping cable left and right as they lose their homes, and cut back on monthly expenses. The folks that do have cable are not ordering VOD as much as they used to...that is for sure.
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    [QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible]
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis

    BS. When money it tight, people go over their bills with a fine tooth comb. They will notice a five dollar charge...rather easily I might add. And these days, folks are dumping cable left and right as they lose their homes, and cut back on monthly expenses. The folks that do have cable are not ordering VOD as much as they used to...that is for sure.

    I can agree and atest to not ordering VOD. But then, being 4 blocks (not New York blocks) away from a Redbox kiosk, I'll do that before the VOD. Not just for the money differential, but I don't trust what the cable company does to the signal. Before, they were the same price or higher than BB was and now with Redbox on the scene, that has changed everything.

    The Redbox near me is *always* busy. It didn't take them long to add a second kiosk at that location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible


    I can agree and atest to not ordering VOD. But then, being 4 blocks (not New York blocks) away from a Redbox kiosk, I'll do that before the VOD. Not just for the money differential, but I don't trust what the cable company does to the signal. Before, they were the same price or higher than BB was and now with Redbox on the scene, that has changed everything.

    The Redbox near me is *always* busy. It didn't take them long to add a second kiosk at that location.
    No matter what cable "does to the signal" HD from cable will always be better than DVD.
    I doubt if you're getting BLU from redbox
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    [QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible][QUOTE=pixelthis]

    We could do without your airhead comments, but do we get that pleasure...nope. As long as people want "these features" they will be included whether you like it or not. Get used to it.




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    BS. When money it tight, people go over their bills with a fine tooth comb. They will notice a five dollar charge...rather easily I might add. And these days, folks are dumping cable left and right as they lose their homes, and cut back on monthly expenses. The folks that do have cable are not ordering VOD as much as they used to...that is for sure.
    Of course they will notice it, but its a delayed payment.
    If you're broke till payday you can still get PPV off of cable.
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    [QUOTE=pixelthis][QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible]
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis

    We could do without your airhead comments, but do we get that pleasure...nope. As long as people want "these features" they will be included whether you like it or not. Get used to it.




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    Of course they will notice it, but its a delayed payment.
    If you're broke till payday you can still get PPV off of cable.
    Whether the payment is delayed or not, it is going to cost them. People are trying to pare down their expenses, and unneeded or delayed wasteful spending is all the same to them.
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