YPAO question.

[saul]

Saul, I am THRILLED with this receiver and Yamaha in general. They really are top notch. I would buy another one in a second...Go with it. I have a brand new RX-V650 for sale with the factory warranty as well. Let me know if you are interested : )

What do you want for the receiver and why are you selling it? i was looking into the 5790 as well, but what is the major differences? Is there a big difference between the two? Thanks for the reply post earlier.

[ryjam282]

email me Ryan_Withey@ncci.com and we will talk about it......The 5790 basically has a learning remote and about 10 more watts per channel but the remote was the biggest reason I did it. I had to reduce just to just one remote. I have so many, so email me and we will talk about it. Thanks.

Ryan

[saul]

email me Ryan_Withey@ncci.com and we will talk about it......The 5790 basically has a learning remote and about 10 more watts per channel but the remote was the biggest reason I did it. I had to reduce just to just one remote. I have so many, so email me and we will talk about it. Thanks.

Ryan

The main reason I like the 5790 over the 650 model is that on the 650 it has a THD % of .06 and on the 5790 it is only .04%. Also, I would prefer a little more wattage for the music mode. Overall, is there a big difference between the two receivers? Thanks for your help. The remote wouldn't be an issue for me because you can always buy a universal w/ learning and macro functions. Thanks again! Saul

[kexodusc]

The main reason I like the 5790 over the 650 model is that on the 650 it has a THD % of .06 and on the 5790 it is only .04%. Also, I would prefer a little more wattage for the music mode.

Let's put this into perspecitve. Many tests have proven the human ear to be unable to detect THD as high as 1%, some even say 2%.
It is generally agreed anything below 1% THD is undetectable. 0.5% THD is very, very undetectable and is good enough. 0.1% could not be detected by God's hearing aid on it's best day. 0.06% is rediculously minute.

The 0.02% THD difference between those 2 amps is so freakin' insignificant that's it's not even worth mentioning.

Second, the extra power between the 650 and 1400 or 5790 is probably only somewhat significant. In 2-channel stereo mode the extra 15 watts per channel isn't going to give you squat. With all channels driven, even the 1400/5790's max watt output is going to be considerably reduced below the 110 watts per channel it claims to have. I don't know exactly but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 70 watts per channel, all channels driven. Again, this difference between the 1400/5790's power and 650's power isn't all that signifcant...certainly not to the amount of +3 dB's...which in itself isn't all that noticeable.

That being said, it doesn't hurt to have more power, but please understand that this extra power is probably only going to make a real world difference of a few percent, only very little of the time.

The biggest differences between these units are features like Component video upconversion THX DSP and certification, the Parametric EQ, the remote, the number of inputs, phono inputs etc.

I own the 1400 and I'm very happy with it, but in hindsight I think I paid too much for the extra features...

[ryjam282]

Thanks Kexo, Saul let me know what you decide to do, thanks.

Ryan

[saul]

Let's put this into perspecitve. Many tests have proven the human ear to be unable to detect THD as high as 1%, some even say 2%.
It is generally agreed anything below 1% THD is undetectable. 0.5% THD is very, very undetectable and is good enough. 0.1% could not be detected by God's hearing aid on it's best day. 0.06% is rediculously minute.

The 0.02% THD difference between those 2 amps is so freakin' insignificant that's it's not even worth mentioning.

Second, the extra power between the 650 and 1400 or 5790 is probably only somewhat significant. In 2-channel stereo mode the extra 15 watts per channel isn't going to give you squat. With all channels driven, even the 1400/5790's max watt output is going to be considerably reduced below the 110 watts per channel it claims to have. I don't know exactly but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 70 watts per channel, all channels driven. Again, this difference between the 1400/5790's power and 650's power isn't all that signifcant...certainly not to the amount of +3 dB's...which in itself isn't all that noticeable.

That being said, it doesn't hurt to have more power, but please understand that this extra power is probably only going to make a real world difference of a few percent, only very little of the time.

The biggest differences between these units are features like Component video upconversion THX DSP and certification, the Parametric EQ, the remote, the number of inputs, phono inputs etc.

I own the 1400 and I'm very happy with it, but in hindsight I think I paid too much for the extra features...

Is there any difference between the 1400 and the 5790? I currently have an Onkyo 787 receiver and am running Klipsch Reference Series speakers. I use my receiver about 70% HT and 30% Music. Do you think I would notice any improvements or change in sound if I purchased the Yamaha? Also, in your opinion what Yamaha receiver would you recommend between the 5790, 1400, and 650? Thanks for your help!