I love Denon gear. Even though it isnt what it used to be. I'm in Australia. I used to sell Denon HiFi 25 years ago and I can tell you a lot has changed. The distributors of Denon here, also distribute Marantz and Nad, but they have no idea about Denon products nor do they care about helping customers. Thats probably why Denon is getting bashed so much. Its probably the same all round the world. I still love Denon stuff but boy am I dissapointed they stopped the GOLD on the DVD players and went for the same old black and silver. The Gold really looked classy and its somthing Denon has had from the beginining.