• 06-24-2010, 11:38 AM
    E-Stat
    Suggestions for cleaning Blu Ray player laser lens ?
    I'm beginning to get some noise during disc playback and know I need a dedicated DVD/BR solution. The old CD based cleaner I have is pretty old and worn. I'd appreciate hearing what others use.

    Thanks!

    rw
  • 06-24-2010, 11:45 AM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E-Stat
    I'm beginning to get some noise during disc playback and know I need a dedicated DVD/BR solution. The old CD based cleaner I have is pretty old and worn. I'd appreciate hearing what others use.

    Thanks!

    rw

    My personal favorite

    http://www.amazon.com/Maxell-BR-LC-B...-wl_item-added
  • 06-24-2010, 12:35 PM
    pixelthis
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    WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, GET YOURSELF A PET ROCK.
    "Lens" cleaners are about as usefull, at least a pet rock is more decorative.
    THE LaSER coming from the unit is all you need, its not like a phono needle, there is no contact with the disc.
    I HAVE HAD dvd AND cd PLAYERS over ten years old, never cleaned a lens ONCE.
    Biggest con since they invented the extended warranty:1:
  • 06-24-2010, 12:39 PM
    pixelthis
    I SAW A LINK on TALKYS POST THAT HAS LENS CLEANERS
    40% off, so maybe peeps are catching on.
    Still too high by 60% tho.:1:
  • 06-24-2010, 12:41 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Why do the moderators allow this idiot to crap up every thread he posts into. CD lenses don't need cleaning....what the hell??????
  • 06-24-2010, 12:49 PM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Why do the moderators allow this idiot to crap up every thread he posts into. CD lenses don't need cleaning....what the hell??????

    Is there no depth to your ignorance?
    EDUCATING YOU IS A FULL TIME JOB.
    If you absolutely have to waste some money, get a very fine paintbrush, a small one,
    use it to brush off the lens, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
    THE PHOTONIC PRESSURE from the laser wont let dust settle.
    But I COMMEND YOU FOR KEEPING armies of marketing hacks and Chinese
    factories making this junk going, helping keep the economy going strong.
    Know what the diff is between me and you?
    I HAVENT WASTED a small fortune on junk like this, designed to keep idiots
    entertained.
    I have had CD players for ten years, have never cleaned a lens.
    NEVER SACRIFICED A GOAT BY THE FULL MOON EITHER,
    wouldnt be surprized if you have.:1:
  • 06-24-2010, 01:01 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Oh boy......the dust settles on the lens when the player is turned off stupid.

    If educating me is your full time job, no wonder you are unemployed. You information is crap, and you are an expert at pulling stuff out of the clouds that don't make any sense whatsoever.

    You don't know enough to get a full time job educating me. Start with yourself first, then work your way outward.
  • 06-24-2010, 01:45 PM
    E-Stat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    My personal favorite

    I have to smile because my CD cleaner is also a Maxell product. When you use it, it plays a short multi-vocal part a cappella jingle "For all you do, just ask Max, just ask Max". :)

    Thanks! I'll order one ASAP.

    rw
  • 06-24-2010, 01:47 PM
    E-Stat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Oh boy......the dust settles on the lens when the player is turned off stupid.

    I really didn't think that was a complex concept to understand. Dust happens.

    rw
  • 06-24-2010, 01:54 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E-Stat
    I really didn't think that was a complex concept to understand. Dust happens.

    rw

    I didn't think it was either, but of course for the village idiot it obviously is.
  • 06-24-2010, 02:13 PM
    audio amateur
    I have to say i have never used any products either, at least not in the past 10 years. I've had my Sony Playstation since 1999 and it's still reading fine. Do you guys use these lens cleaners by precaution or do you actually have a need for them?
  • 06-24-2010, 02:36 PM
    E-Stat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    . Do you guys use these lens cleaners by precaution or do you actually have a need for them?

    If you care about audio/visual quality, they are necessary. Just like cleaning tape heads. And styli.

    rw
  • 06-24-2010, 02:37 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    I have to say i have never used any products either, at least not in the past 10 years. I've had my Sony Playstation since 1999 and it's still reading fine. Do you guys use these lens cleaners by precaution or do you actually have a need for them?

    For both in my case.
  • 06-24-2010, 02:38 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E-Stat
    If you care about audio/visual quality, they are necessary. Just like cleaning tape heads. And styli.

    rw

    Exactly!
  • 06-24-2010, 07:26 PM
    Smokey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    If you absolutely have to waste some money, get a very fine paintbrush, a small one, use it to brush off the lens.

    That is probably not a good advice. I did that to my DVD players, and it killed it:

    Two DVD players down..

    I am a heavy smoker and have to clean my computer CD player almost every other year as computer is sitting close to chair where I smoke. It just stop reading CDs. I use one of those CD cleaner Sir TT mentioned and it works pretty good.
  • 06-25-2010, 04:03 AM
    Worf101
    Hmmm..
    I have a CD cleaner, but never went beyond that. Considering the symptoms Smoke and TT have described I probably should've bought and used one for my old Denon ProgScan unit from years ago. Interesting topic, thanks for educating me.

    Worf
  • 06-25-2010, 06:19 AM
    audio amateur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E-Stat
    If you care about audio/visual quality, they are necessary. Just like cleaning tape heads. And styli.

    rw

    I haven't noticed any decline in video or audio quality so far.
  • 06-25-2010, 06:57 AM
    Hyfi
    I don't have any pets but have had rental disks with pet hair and crud statically attached to them. I am in the habit of cleaning any borrowed or rented cd/dvd before it goes into my players. My own disks are kept spotless and without finger prints on them.

    I have on a few occasions had a cd not play right and upon removing the cleaner disk from the player, was able to see the small pc of hair that was somewhere it should not have been.

    If it happens to cd players, it also happens to dvd/br players.

    So, to differ with Pix, I agree they are needed and useful sometimes, and DO work.
  • 06-25-2010, 10:35 AM
    hank46
    i bought a new disc cd lens cleaner, and used it on most all my disc. players including my dvd players with no harmful effect. i also have cleaned the lens by hand.
  • 06-25-2010, 10:48 PM
    Woochifer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    If you absolutely have to waste some money, get a very fine paintbrush, a small one,
    use it to brush off the lens, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

    Care to find me a paintbrush that will fit through a slot loader (which is what the PS3 uses)? :lol:
  • 06-25-2010, 10:55 PM
    Woochifer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Worf101
    I have a CD cleaner, but never went beyond that. Considering the symptoms Smoke and TT have described I probably should've bought and used one for my old Denon ProgScan unit from years ago. Interesting topic, thanks for educating me.

    Worf

    I got a few more years of use out of my Denon DVD player after using a lens cleaning CD. Thought that the DVD drive was a goner after it could no longer reliably read DVDs (it could actually still track CDs), but then I remembered that I had an old cleaning CD. So, I used it and voila, that Denon could play all my DVDs again.
  • 06-28-2010, 04:20 PM
    pixelthis
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    I haven't noticed any decline in video or audio quality so far.

    AND YOU WONT.
    I have used CD and DVD players, laserdisc, BLU, SACD, etc, and have never
    had a problem.
    And no degradation in performance, either.
    Actually nobody was even going to make these, its obvious to anybody that knows
    anything that they are a rather silly idea.
    But there was a demand, people (non-technically minded people) actually showed that they wanted them, and if corps are willing to do anything, its parting people with their money.
    HENCE, "lens cleaners", special "power" cords, expensive but do absolutely nothing,
    special "cables", most of which are no better than ZIP cord, etc.
    But lens cleaners are the worst, if anything they will shorten the life of your gear,
    and are a total waste of time at best.
    You want something worthless and potentially dangerous, vote a
    LIBERAL to political office, although free at first, its more expensive in the long run, tho.:1:
  • 06-28-2010, 04:38 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I knew this was coming, I knew it. Not a technical reason to not use it, but some half witted explanation that does not make a damn bit of sense.

    You have very experienced and knowledgeable people clearly saying why it is necessary, and one bumbling idiot that says it is not. Great....

    If you have never had dust on the lenses of your players, great, your lucky. For those who players occasionally won't read a disc, a lense cleaner is essential. For those who talk against it, then have never owned anything worth more than $2.50 anyway.
  • 06-28-2010, 04:49 PM
    E-Stat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    AND YOU WONT.
    I have used CD and DVD players, laserdisc, BLU, SACD, etc, and have never
    had a problem.
    And no degradation in performance, either.

    The Minister of Mediocrity speaks.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    HENCE, "lens cleaners", special "power" cords, expensive but do absolutely nothing,
    special "cables", most of which are no better than ZIP cord, etc.

    Your vast experience with said illustrates that point succinctly.

    rw
  • 06-28-2010, 04:58 PM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I knew this was coming, I knew it. Not a technical reason to not use it, but some half witted explanation that does not make a damn bit of sense.

    You have very experienced and knowledgeable people clearly saying why it is necessary, and one bumbling idiot that says it is not. Great....

    If you have never had dust on the lenses of your players, great, your lucky. For those who players occasionally won't read a disc, a lense cleaner is essential. For those who talk against it, then have never owned anything worth more than $2.50 anyway.

    You are the one who doesnt make "sense".
    WHERE IS YOUR "TECHNICAL" REASON FOR BUYING THIS VERSION OF A PET ROCK?
    I don't need a "technical " reason, not that you would understand one, but answer me this, how does "dust " park on a lense with a high energy diode laser blasting through whenever the device is ON?
    Dust, which is moved by sunlight shining through even a closed curtain.
    Not to mention that not enough dust will ever get into a player to matter anyway.
    And so, shill, people will waste their hard earned money on what you say?
    Well, if they listen to you, they deserve such.
    I REPEAT, I HAVE NEVER used this garbage in 28 years, never had to,
    and neither does anybody else.:1:
  • 06-29-2010, 02:40 AM
    audio amateur
    My PS2 has had trouble reading PS1 games for a while now. I dismanteld it a couple times in the past and cleaned the lens with alcohol, a solution that ended up not lasting very long. I guess this will be the ultimate test:)
  • 06-29-2010, 03:07 AM
    Hyfi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Dust, which is moved by sunlight shining through even a closed curtain.
    Not to mention that not enough dust will ever get into a player to matter anyway.

    Have you ever worked on a computer?

    How about in a customers house who has 3 dogs, never ever moved the PC or cleaned it for a few years?

    You can pull the crap out of the slot with your fingers it's so thick.

    So, maybe that is what one listens to music on, or watches DVDs.

    Maybe they have a real CDP right next to the dirty little PC.

    I have seen this first hand working on PCs in peoples homes.

    My house is almost spotless, and yours must be too, but to claim enough dust and dirt and hair could NEVER get into a player is just ridiculous to say, let alone think.
  • 06-29-2010, 06:34 AM
    kevlarus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    I don't need a "technical " reason, not that you would understand one, but answer me this, how does "dust " park on a lense with a high energy diode laser blasting through whenever the device is ON?
    Dust, which is moved by sunlight shining through even a closed curtain.
    Not to mention that not enough dust will ever get into a player to matter anyway.


    Dust ONLY moved by sunlight ? Guess you're still sitting in that chair not moving.

    Ever walk, have a fan on, use heat or A/C ? They all create air movement and much more movement than today's heat from electronics. Just like what "hyfi" said about computers, right on the money there.

    And if none of the above, you may want to check for a pulse. Of course, you'll have critters (ie, spiders) lurking around then.
  • 06-29-2010, 11:40 AM
    Rich-n-Texas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixiedust
    ...how does "dust " park on a lense with a high energy diode laser blasting through whenever the device is ON?

    Isn't dust heavier than light? Does light move air? :crazy:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixiedust
    Dust, which is moved by sunlight shining through even a closed curtain.

    You've outdone yourself pix.
  • 06-29-2010, 12:21 PM
    pixelthis
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hyfi
    Have you ever worked on a computer?

    How about in a customers house who has 3 dogs, never ever moved the PC or cleaned it for a few years?

    You can pull the crap out of the slot with your fingers it's so thick.

    So, maybe that is what one listens to music on, or watches DVDs.

    Maybe they have a real CDP right next to the dirty little PC.

    I have seen this first hand working on PCs in peoples homes.

    My house is almost spotless, and yours must be too, but to claim enough dust and dirt and hair could NEVER get into a player is just ridiculous to say, let alone think.

    No, its rediculous to think that a "lens" cleaner will do anything, the dirt on the lens
    (if any is there) is inconsequential.
    I AM DOING A PROJECT, showing just how much dust accumilates on my gear.
    IF i don't dust once a week at least it piles up.
    AND then I will show the assorted disc players that have never seen a
    "lens cleaner", and never will.
    Ones eight years old, one is four years old, One at least a decade old, etc.
    If you have a dry "cleaner" all it will do is have a chance of scratching your lens, if its a "wet" one it could leave a film on the lens.
    PEOPLE DO SOME STUPID THINGS(like buy plasma tv sets, lottery tickets, change their oil every 3,000 miles instead of 5,000, but "special" power cords that do as much
    for sound as a PET ROCK) , but that doesnt mean that I have to.
    REALLY, if it makes snuggums feel better to have a security blankie, go ahead and get your lens cleaner, its your money.
    I'd rather spend mine on something usefull, like Talky repellant.:1:
  • 06-29-2010, 01:03 PM
    bobsticks
    Easy there, oh wealthy one...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pix
    Dust, which is moved by sunlight shining through even a closed curtain.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    You've outdone yourself pix.

    http://lotcchicago.files.wordpress.c.../supernova.jpg

    It does...if you have an exploding supernova in your listening room...
  • 06-29-2010, 01:51 PM
    Rich-n-Texas
    That is AWESOME!!!
  • 06-29-2010, 02:18 PM
    Sir Terrence the Terrible
    That explains it all...a supernova went off in P's house, blowing the dust(and his brain) out of room. I guess that is why he doesn't think a lens cleaner is necessary.

    Sticks, you are a genious!!!
  • 06-30-2010, 10:53 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    That explains it all...a supernova went off in P's house, blowing the dust(and his brain) out of room. I guess that is why he doesn't think a lens cleaner is necessary.

    Sticks, you are a genious!!!

    You certainly arent.
    Witness the "lens" cleaners and other junk you bought because you couldnt figure out
    how worthless they are.
    Of course you cant figue out how worthless you are either.:1:
  • 06-30-2010, 10:57 AM
    pixelthis
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Isn't dust heavier than light? Does light move air? :crazy:

    You've outdone yourself pix.

    You havent.
    SUNLIGHT HAS PLENTY of pressure to move dust,why you start sneezing when you stand in the window sometimes.
    CHECK OUT some of the solar sails NASA is thinking of building to push spaceships,
    all of which will have more mass than "dust", that is if you can pull yourself away from the comics long enough.:1:
  • 06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
    Hyfi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pixelthis
    No, its rediculous to think that a "lens" cleaner will do anything, the dirt on the lens
    (if any is there) is inconsequential.

    OK, so lets forget about dust for a minute and talk about hair. I have on more than one occasion had a disk that was skipping or not playing right. After putting my useless lens cleaner disk in the player, it played again with no problems. When I removed the cleaner disk from the player, I was able to pick the piece of hair off of the brush on the disk.

    So what that means is that there was something in my player that did not belong, and then it wasn't.

    Statistics do show that not everything happens to everybody. So, you are the one lucky one posting in this thread that has never had a disk skip.

    Kudos to you, I wish I were that lucky.
  • 06-30-2010, 02:52 PM
    E-Stat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by audio amateur
    My PS2 has had trouble reading PS1 games for a while now. I dismanteld it a couple times in the past and cleaned the lens with alcohol, a solution that ended up not lasting very long. I guess this will be the ultimate test:)

    Yes, that's the vastly more inconvenient solution.

    rw
  • 06-30-2010, 02:59 PM
    bobsticks
    It should hardly be surprising that a solar panel has more mass than dust...
  • 07-01-2010, 11:07 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hyfi
    OK, so lets forget about dust for a minute and talk about hair. I have on more than one occasion had a disk that was skipping or not playing right. After putting my useless lens cleaner disk in the player, it played again with no problems. When I removed the cleaner disk from the player, I was able to pick the piece of hair off of the brush on the disk.

    So what that means is that there was something in my player that did not belong, and then it wasn't.

    Statistics do show that not everything happens to everybody. So, you are the one lucky one posting in this thread that has never had a disk skip.

    Kudos to you, I wish I were that lucky.

    If you have hair in your disc player, you have bigger problems than needing a disc player.:1:
  • 07-01-2010, 11:11 AM
    pixelthis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobsticks
    It should hardly be surprising that a solar panel has more mass than dust...

    NOT A SOLAR PANEL, a solar sail.
    A few microns thick, and several kilometers long.
    You can use it in the solar system, using pressure from sunshine, or use(thats right :-)...
    a launch laser to boost it to a percentage of lightspeed for travel between suns.
    A solar panel collects light, turns it into electricity.:1: