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Can anyone explain to me just how the last posters response corresponds to what happen's in the drive of a CD, DVD, Blu ray player?
The fact remains that a lot of people live in areas where dust is an issue. It has been demonstrated that the Blu ray cleaner that I have recommended does indeed do its job, do it without damaging the lens, and does it without dismantling any part of the player which can void the warranty. The technology is sound - it generates small suction wind drafts that suck the dust off the lens. Nothing voodoo about that, vacuum devices have been doing that for decades utilizing various wind forces and suction technology.
If a person lives near a freeway, construction site, has dogs or cats that shed, or does not dust regularly(or uses a poor dusting device), these things come in handy, and are very effective. I have one dog that sheds quite a bit, so lens cleaners like the one I use come in handy.
If you have never needed it, great. That does not negate the need of the product one bit. It just means you have never needed it. For those of us who need it, it is indispensable.
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
Can anyone explain to me just how the last posters response corresponds to what happen's in the drive of a CD, DVD, Blu ray player?
Thanks again for your recommendation forty posts ago. :)
rw
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Originally Posted by E-Stat
Thanks again for your recommendation forty posts ago. :)
rw
Jeeze, it felt like 400 posts ago. No probs E.
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Originally Posted by E-Stat
Thanks again for your recommendation forty posts ago. :)
rw
Wait, but 39 posts ago you were told they don't work.
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Now I'm confused. Do they work or don't they? :idea:
If they DO work, that means dust is heavier than light, right? Err, well, at least dust is heavier than laser beams... I think.:1:
Anyway, what's the name of this thing again? I wanna go buy one. Not only do I have cat hair to deal with, but I also noticed that after pulling out the lamp assembly from my TV, that I have a fine powder (from the cat litter) that gets through the AC in my house and circulates around. I'm sure it'll help in that regard. Well, maybe not. Light may be heavier than powder. I just don't know.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Now I'm confused. Do they work or don't they? :idea:
If they DO work, that means dust is heavier than light, right? Err, well, at least dust is heavier than laser beams... I think.:1:
Anyway, what's the name of this thing again? I wanna go buy one. Not only do I have cat hair to deal with, but I also noticed that after pulling out the lamp assembly from my TV, that I have a fine powder (from the cat litter) that gets through the AC in my house and circulates around. I'm sure it'll help in that regard. Well, maybe not. Light may be heavier than powder. I just don't know.
A few simple things to remember.
1. Dust is matter.
2. Light is energy.
3. Dust is heavier than photon's of light.
4. If properly collected or focused light CAN move mater.
5. Dust will collect on and in any electronic device that has slots for cooling or media placement.
6. While photonic energy MIGHT move dust, fans, movement of body and objects and general convection from the heat caused by electronic devices doe a far more efficient job of causing the movement and collection of dust.in devices.
Worf
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Now I'm confused. Do they work or don't they? :idea:
If they DO work, that means dust is heavier than light, right? Err, well, at least dust is heavier than laser beams... I think.:1:
Anyway, what's the name of this thing again? I wanna go buy one. Not only do I have cat hair to deal with, but I also noticed that after pulling out the lamp assembly from my TV, that I have a fine powder (from the cat litter) that gets through the AC in my house and circulates around. I'm sure it'll help in that regard. Well, maybe not. Light may be heavier than powder. I just don't know.
they don't.
Just something to waste money on.:1:
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
Can anyone explain to me just how the last posters response corresponds to what happen's in the drive of a CD, DVD, Blu ray player?
The fact remains that a lot of people live in areas where dust is an issue. It has been demonstrated that the Blu ray cleaner that I have recommended does indeed do its job, do it without damaging the lens, and does it without dismantling any part of the player which can void the warranty. The technology is sound - it generates small suction wind drafts that suck the dust off the lens. Nothing voodoo about that, vacuum devices have been doing that for decades utilizing various wind forces and suction technology.
If a person lives near a freeway, construction site, has dogs or cats that shed, or does not dust regularly(or uses a poor dusting device), these things come in handy, and are very effective. I have one dog that sheds quite a bit, so lens cleaners like the one I use come in handy.
If you have never needed it, great. That does not negate the need of the product one bit. It just means you have never needed it. For those of us who need it, it is indispensable.
Nobody needs it, is the point.
BUT people waste their money on worse, I guess.
But I have a lot of dust in my house, and I DONT NEED ONE.
They werent even making them until a marketing wonk saw a demand.
Doesnt matter if they work or not, if someone will buy one they'll sell one.
Not that the issue is if they work or not, the issue is that they are not needed.:1:
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
they don't.
Just something to waste money on.:1:
SEE rich?
Didnt even say anything about your brains not working either, etc.
EVEN THO you left the door wide open.
EITHER YOU'RE SLIPPING OR I am:1:
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Originally Posted by Worf101
A few simple things to remember.
1. Dust is matter.
2. Light is energy.
3. Dust is heavier than photon's of light.
4. If properly collected or focused light CAN move mater.
5. Dust will collect on and in any electronic device that has slots for cooling or media placement.
6. While photonic energy MIGHT move dust, fans, movement of body and objects and general convection from the heat caused by electronic devices doe a far more efficient job of causing the movement and collection of dust.in devices.
Worf
Thank you for the simplicity and focus of that response.
There is the possibility that the dissenter has a point. If one's home were pearched high atop Mount Everest in a vacuum sealed chamber with massive kilometer long windows coated with polyimide or aluminized 2 µm Kapton then one may have experienced the conversion of light to kinetic foreceful energy.
If one's rig was on the Space Station Mir...nevermind...
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
Nobody needs it, is the point.
BUT people waste their money on worse, I guess.
But I have a lot of dust in my house, and I DONT NEED ONE.
They werent even making them until a marketing wonk saw a demand.
Doesnt matter if they work or not, if someone will buy one they'll sell one.
Not that the issue is if they work or not, the issue is that they are not needed.:1:
Actually, the original point has been lost in minutae. The current issue at hand might be phrased in terms like, "you have the full right to an opinion, make judgement calls, and theorize but those theories, when applied as anecdotal evidence need to have a basis in reality"...or something along those lines...
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Wait, but 39 posts ago you were told they don't work.
I always consider the source, their experience and the level of discrimination demonstrated. Translation: I completely ignored that source. :)
rw
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Originally Posted by E-Stat
I always consider the source, their experience and the level of discrimination demonstrated. Translation: I completely ignored that source. :)
rw
And wasted your money.
Which is the ultimate revenge of the informed over the ignorant.:1:
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Actually, the original point has been lost in minutae. The current issue at hand might be phrased in terms like, "you have the full right to an opinion, make judgement calls, and theorize but those theories, when applied as anecdotal evidence need to have a basis in reality"...or something along those lines...
Heres your "anecdotal" evidence, okay?
I have been buying CD and other disc players since 1983(the first ones were
a 2010 price of four grand), and I have never used any kind of cleaning
device for the lens...EVER.
Thats 27 years, two laserdisc players, a zillion CD players, half a dozen DVD players
(two of which I still have) , and two BLU players.
NEVER had one that showed any symtoms of trouble, except a Sony laser that died
(dead laser) after eight years, and a Toshiba DVD that was a P.O.S outta the box.
All of these were traded or sold, NONE quit.
"lens" cleaners are a joke, people in the know see them and laugh at them, back in the eighties a magazine did a "comparison " of them, which turned out to be an Aprils fool joke.
BUT THATS THE GREAT THING ABOUT AMERICA, you are free to waste your money on crap, and other people are free to get rich off of you.:1:
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
And wasted your money
I'm sure there are great many audio goodies that I enjoy for which you would say the same. :)
rw
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Originally Posted by E-Stat
I'm sure there are great many audio goodies that I enjoy for which you would say the same. :)
rw
Yeah, like actually buying quality equipment and properly setting it up.
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I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.
I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?
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Originally Posted by audio amateur
I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.
I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?
They are all mostly the same brush based. And yes, they work for all here who have used them but Pix never needed one so he is the 1 in a million odds individual.
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Originally Posted by audio amateur
I checked out the CD cleaners the other day in a shop for which they only had one model which said 'DVD lens cleaner'. Does this mean it's also good for a Compact Disc or CD-ROM drive? Basically I'm looking to clean the lens of my PS2 because it won't read PS1 games and has trouble with music CDs on a recorded CD.
I have a feeling this cleaner was brush based (with a tiny soft brush attached to the underside of the disc), as I have seen on other cleaners in the past. Do these work?
I would stay away from the brush based cleaners. The one I first recommended does not use brushes, but uses wind to create a vacuum that pulls dust away from the lens. It is VERY effective, and there is no chance you will damage the lens. They are not that expensive either at $15.00
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
I would stay away from the brush based cleaners. The one I first recommended does not use brushes, but uses wind to create a vacuum that pulls dust away from the lens. It is VERY effective, and there is no chance you will damage the lens. They are not that expensive either at $15.00
Thanks T. The reason I was asking, as I stated in my previous post, is because it was explicitely written 'DVD lens cleaner', not 'DVD/CD/Blu-ray lens cleaner'. I'll look into the wind tunnel type and see if I can find the same or a similar cleaner here in France. Shipping from Amazon US would make it pretty expensive I think, not to mention shipping time...
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