Sir TtT, I can now answer one of your questions

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

It was your comparison, senior. At the expense of confusing the issue with facts, it is you who attempted to defend theatrical systems (huh?) - for which you now say is a retarded thing to do!

"Wow E, I am surprised that you found IMAX's audio to be just mediocre...The real IMAX has the 8 story screen, the 14,000 watt worth of power, and two surrounds as opposed to the common array of speakers. It uses the basic 5.1 channel setup with a front height channel the fake IMAX does not have. I have found the real IMAX sound system to be head and shoulders above the typical theater sound system."

Presumably, now you would say it is not fair to compare a theatrical system with a high resolution home system since the home systems trump them in clarity and smoothness. We agree 100% !

rw

Okay bozo, where in this sentence did I say this system was comparable to any home system. Let's see......no where. I said comparable to a typical theater sound didn't I.

I said if you walk into a theater expecting it to sound like a home audio system, you are stupid. I still say that, nothing has changed. If you want to keep beating this horse, more power to you.

[E-Stat]

Okay bozo, where in this sentence did I say this system was comparable to any home system. Let's see......no where. I said comparable to a typical theater sound didn't I.

Whether you have ADD or Alzheimer's, both are treatable ailments. With your first response to this post, you couldn't even remember the topic or the experience I shared. Sheesh. I will be more than delighted to point out what you've said and apparently have forgotten since that was - what five days ago!

It is in a response to what I said found here.

TtT: The spatial characteristic you get from a home audio system is generated by reflections within the room.

E: And by a far higher level of resolution and purity. The best home systems render like two and a quarter square Hassleblads while even the best theatre systems are more like entry level 35 mm rangefinders.

TtT: You really cannot make this statement without actually listening to all of the theaterical sound system in the field.

It is quite easy to make that statement once you've heard the best theatre systems. Using your terminology, I will once again agree that your comment is utterly retarded. At face value, theatre systems, regardless of whether they are the latest gee-whiz Klipsch design or not will NEVER resolve like the best home and studio gear.

I said if you walk into a theater expecting it to sound like a home audio system, you are stupid. I still say that, nothing has changed. If you want to keep beating this horse, more power to you.

Then I replied: I have never expected the same quality from theatre horns, pro amps and crappy cabling. I still say that and nothing has changed. If you want to keep beating the horse, more power to you. Is there a point to this repetition?

So, either you believe what you've said on this thread or what you said on the other thread. Since they are mutually exclusive, only one can exist. Naturally, we all know which viewpoint is correct.

rw

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Whether you have ADD or Alzheimer's, both are treatable ailments. With your first response to this post, you couldn't even remember the topic or the experience I shared. Sheesh. I will be more than delighted to point out what you've said and apparently have forgotten since that was - what five days ago!

It is in a response to what I said found here.

TtT: The spatial characteristic you get from a home audio system is generated by reflections within the room.

E: And by a far higher level of resolution and purity. The best home systems render like two and a quarter square Hassleblads while even the best theatre systems are more like entry level 35 mm rangefinders.

TtT: You really cannot make this statement without actually listening to all of the theaterical sound system in the field.

And I stand by that statement. I would make a statement like this AFTER I have heard every sound system in the field, not before. Horse before cart. I would not ignorantly make this statement without hearing every sound system out there because that would make this a limited experience opinion, and not a fact that I have researched. Cart before horse. In spite of this, you heard ONE system, and that is supposed to buttress your argument? I think not. There are literally hundreds of custom theatrical systems sitting in screening and small mixing rooms that you have never heard, so making an absolute statement without hearing all of the systems out there is shortsighted at best.

It is quite easy to make that statement once you've heard the best theatre systems. Using your terminology, I will once again agree that your comment is utterly retarded. At face value, theatre systems, regardless of whether they are the latest gee-whiz Klipsch design or not will NEVER resolve like the best home and studio gear.

This response is based on ignorance rather than fact. If you can emphatically state that you have heard EVERY theatrical sound system out there, and this is your conclusion, I'll buy it. But the reality is, you have not, so whether this statement is true or not, you do not have the experience to state it do you?

Then I replied: I have never expected the same quality from theatre horns, pro amps and crappy cabling. I still say that and nothing has changed. If you want to keep beating the horse, more power to you. Is there a point to this repetition?

Unfortunately for you some theatrical systems(especially ones in smaller rooms) do not employ crappy cabling, pro amps, or horns for that matter. So before you go making blanket statements, perhaps you need to give these custom systems a listen as well. I do not care for ignorant arguments based on limited experience.

So, either you believe what you've said on this thread or what you said on the other thread. Since they are mutually exclusive, only one can exist. Naturally, we all know which viewpoint is correct.

rw

I stand by what I said on both threads. You need to listen to ALL of the theatrical sound systems out there(regardless of the speaker technology used) before you can make a blanket statement as you have. Out of the three systems I mentioned, you heard only one of those three, and you still think you have made a point. You still have to hear the HPS-4000 system, and the custom speaker systems I have heard before you make any blanket statements on theatrical speakers. Theatrical systems come in more flavors than JBL and Klispch, and sit in much smaller theaters than the one you visited. Some theatrical systems I have heard would have easily been mistaken for hometheater if there was not a mixing desk sitting in the middle of the room.

I respect informed and well researched conclusions, not the limited exposure snobbish uppidity ignorant conclusions.

[E-Stat]

...And I stand by that statement. I would make a statement like this AFTER I have heard every sound system in the field, not before.

...It is asinine to walk into a theater full of horn loaded speakers, and compare that experience to sitting at home in front of two large panels. While the e-stats would trump these theatrical speakers in clarity and smoothness.

"Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky"

rw