Purchased the RX-V3800

[pixelthis]

Congrats rich.
Dont tempt fate, get banana's, (plugs not fruit)
And YPAO has never worked worth a pee, I know your cheap, but get a ratshack meter.
AND I hope I am wrong but theres reason the yammy is lighter, its not good to buy a receiver by the pound.
But I dont care if I wasnt in on the group hug, they're kinda gay(not that theres anything wrong with that) if you need help yell.
And I know you dont read instruction manuels, but at least look at this one and see if it came off of a copier. Please?

[Rich-n-Texas]

It's now at the Plano Depot. Has anyone had product shipped via DHL? Good experiences? Bad experiences?

[GMichael]

It's now at the Plano Depot. Has anyone had product shipped via DHL? Good experiences? Bad experiences?

They are OK. Don't seem any better or worse than the rest of them. There will always be nightmare stories. Same for UPS, FEDEX, etc....

Can't wait huh? What's the ETA now?

[Rich-n-Texas]

I just now saw this post. If I'd known he actually had something nice to say, I wouldn't have been so hard on him. Naaaa... F**k that!!!

Congrats rich.

Huh? Oh... thanks. (hoping that saying thanks doesn't blow up in my face)

Dont tempt fate, get banana's, (plugs not fruit)

I'm currently using bananas at the speakers: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...umber=091-1165
So yeah, I know the difference between the plugs and the fruit. And I know the difference between toslink and RCA connectors too. Ain't that some sh!t?

And YPAO has never worked worth a pee, I know your cheap, but get a ratshack meter.

So we have an unsupported claim, an insult and advice all in one sentence. BTW, I'll be using a Simpson model 899 Impulse Sound Level meter to tweak whatever settings may be necessary after YPAO has done it's thing.

AND I hope I am wrong but theres reason the yammy is lighter, its not good to buy a receiver by the pound.

As I said in my post, if you read it correctly was that the weight of the unit wouldn't be a deal breaker. The only thing I buy by the pound id groundbeef, another member of this forum you've managed to insult with your false humor.

But I dont care if I wasnt in on the group hug, they're kinda gay(not that theres anything wrong with that) if you need help yell.

Get with the times. Men hug each other these days. Why I don't know but nevertheless it happens.

And I know you dont read instruction manuels, but at least look at this one and see if it came off of a copier. Please?

You're right, I don't read manuels, I read manuals. In fact, I downloaded the 3800 owners manual from the Yamaha website and started browsing through it last week.
I'll scan any smeared pages and post them up here. Sound good?

[Rich-n-Texas]

They are OK. Don't seem any better or worse than the rest of them. There will always be nightmare stories. Same for UPS, FEDEX, etc....

Can't wait huh? What's the ETA now?

Tomorrow, but I'm tracking it closely. Don't know if the other's do this but you can select an option that'll have DHL send you an e-mail whenever there's a change in status during the shipment. Nice feature.

[L.J.]

And YPAO has never worked worth a pee, I know your cheap, but get a ratshack meter.

And I take this is also based on the reports of 2 people.

I've used auto setup from Onkyo, Denon & Yamaha. Never had a problem with any of them and distances and levels have always been spot on(except for the sub of course). No one is expecting a miracle but they do give you a starting point....especially if your new to setting a system up.

Give Rich a break and let him enjoy his new toy.

BTW, just because you had good luck with Integra, it doesn't mean they don't have issues as well. The current line of Integra is plagued with problems just like Onkyo is. I had HDMI problems with Elite as well. Yamaha was the only problem free units I auditioned.

[Rich-n-Texas]

congrats dude you WILL love it! if the gui is the same as my 2700, like L.J said it is easy to navigate. hope you enjoy

cheers: dazza

Some of the posts I read on the AVS forum about the 1800's GUI was that it was very DOS'ish. Anything's better than standing right in front of the receiver like I have to do now but it sounds like this model will have a more user friendly GUI/menu system. I sure hope so. The old eyes just ain't what they used to be.

[pixelthis]

And I take this is also based on the reports of 2 people.

I've used auto setup from Onkyo, Denon & Yamaha. Never had a problem with any of them and distances and levels have always been spot on(except for the sub of course). No one is expecting a miracle but they do give you a starting point....especially if your new to setting a system up.

Give Rich a break and let him enjoy his new toy.

BTW, just because you had good luck with Integra, it doesn't mean they don't have issues as well. The current line of Integra is plagued with problems just like Onkyo is. I had HDMI problems with Elite as well. Yamaha was the only problem free units I auditioned.

Have you checked that auto setup?
I have tried it on a couple of receivers and it never worked quite right.
kinda like sex on a motorcycle , it sounds great in theory, but the reality
can be quite bloody.
A cheap microchip will never replace the human ear , IMHO..
And I do hope Rich enjoys his new toy, might not beleive it but I am on his side,
its just that hes mr opening line.
And again I HAVENT HEARD ABOUT ANY PROBS WITH iNTEGRA.
But I am leery of most modern receivers, I am a firm beleiver that there aint no such thing as a free lunch, and they cram too much into modern receivers.
Its engineering by the marketing dept, and has produced a poorer product as a result.
My first receiver had 35wpc, my second 75wpc, INTO TWO CHANNELS.
And it was top of the line at the time, would cost 1800 in todays dollars.
The tech hasnt advanced enough to cram SEVEN 140 watt amps into a single receiver
without major compromises, thats all there is to it.
All of the "brand" names are trading quality to compete, and the consumer suffers

[pixelthis]

And I take this is also based on the reports of 2 people.

I've used auto setup from Onkyo, Denon & Yamaha. Never had a problem with any of them and distances and levels have always been spot on(except for the sub of course). No one is expecting a miracle but they do give you a starting point....especially if your new to setting a system up.

Give Rich a break and let him enjoy his new toy.

BTW, just because you had good luck with Integra, it doesn't mean they don't have issues as well. The current line of Integra is plagued with problems just like Onkyo is. I had HDMI problems with Elite as well. Yamaha was the only problem free units I auditioned.

Have you checked that auto setup?
I have tried it on a couple of receivers and it never worked quite right.
kinda like sex on a motorcycle , it sounds great in theory, but the reality
can be quite bloody.
A cheap microchip will never replace the human ear , IMHO..
And I do hope Rich enjoys his new toy, might not beleive it but I am on his side,
its just that hes mr opening line.
And again I HAVENT HEARD ABOUT ANY PROBS WITH iNTEGRA.
But I am leery of most modern receivers, I am a firm beleiver that there aint no such thing as a free lunch, and they cram too much into modern receivers.
Its engineering by the marketing dept, and has produced a poorer product as a result.
My first receiver had 35wpc, my second 75wpc, INTO TWO CHANNELS.
And it was top of the line at the time, would cost 1800 in todays dollars.
The tech hasnt advanced enough to cram SEVEN 140 watt amps into a single receiver
without major compromises, thats all there is to it.
All of the "brand" names are trading quality to compete, and the consumer suffers

[GMichael]

Have you checked that auto setup?
I have tried it on a couple of receivers and it never worked quite right.
kinda like sex on a motorcycle , it sounds great in theory, but the reality
can be quite bloody.
A cheap microchip will never replace the human ear , IMHO..
And I do hope Rich enjoys his new toy, might not beleive it but I am on his side,
its just that hes mr opening line.
And again I HAVENT HEARD ABOUT ANY PROBS WITH iNTEGRA.
But I am leery of most modern receivers, I am a firm beleiver that there aint no such thing as a free lunch, and they cram too much into modern receivers.
Its engineering by the marketing dept, and has produced a poorer product as a result.
My first receiver had 35wpc, my second 75wpc, INTO TWO CHANNELS.
And it was top of the line at the time, would cost 1800 in todays dollars.
The tech hasnt advanced enough to cram SEVEN 140 watt amps into a single receiver
without major compromises, thats all there is to it.
All of the "brand" names are trading quality to compete, and the consumer suffers

I have the auto-setup thing on my AVR. It does a nice job with some things, but not all. It gets the distance spot on (even the sub that others have found not to work well on theirs) The levels are close but not perfect. Gives you a great place to start, then tweak away. Not sure how they come up with their EQ settings, but wholly crap does it go overboard. Good thing it's so easy to go in and set that back to flat. I tweaked this a little due to room problems, but room treatments would be better. All & all the GUI is a nice thing to have.

Tex,

What worked good for me was to run the Auto-Set-Up and them save that into a memory slot before you make any changes. Then if you end up not liking your tweaks you have something to go back to without having to keep running the ASU over and over again. The beeps and other sounds can become annoying after awhile.
I saved the original set-up in slot 6. Made tweaks and then saved in 5. More tweaks and saved in 4. I ended up with one set-up for movies saved in slot 1 and the one I use for TV in slot 2. For music I just hit Straight mode. Slot 3 is my work in progress. I'm always changing things and saving it their till I find something I like better before I move it to 1 or 2.
Pure direct is good for music also, but it will bypass your sub as well as the EQ.

Oh, Pix,

You double posted. You may want to delete one of them.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Tex,

What worked good for me was to run the Auto-Set-Up and them save that into a memory slot before you make any changes. Then if you end up not liking your tweaks you have something to go back to without having to keep running the ASU over and over again. The beeps and other sounds can become annoying after awhile.
I saved the original set-up in slot 6. Made tweaks and then saved in 5. More tweaks and saved in 4. I ended up with one set-up for movies saved in slot 1 and the one I use for TV in slot 2. For music I just hit Straight mode. Slot 3 is my work in progress. I'm always changing things and saving it their till I find something I like better before I move it to 1 or 2.
Pure direct is good for music also, but it will bypass your sub as well as the EQ.

Bookmarked!!! Thanks GM.

I'm afraid to ask this question, and I know I could probably find the answer in the manuel, but can someone tell me what the difference is between "Straight" mode and "Direct Stereo" mode? When I choose Direct Stereo, the display dims so I think that means circutry (digital?) not needed is shut down, correct?

[GMichael]

Bookmarked!!! Thanks GM.

I'm afraid to ask this question, and I know I could probably find the answer in the manuel, but can someone tell me what the difference is between "Straight" mode and "Direct Stereo" mode? When I choose Direct Stereo, the display dims so I think that means circutry (digital?) not needed is shut down, correct?

Straight mode has minimal processing. It splits a little off for the sub, and it still goes through the EQ section. Otherwise, signal in = signal out.
Pure direct has zip for processing. In = out. No sub, no EQ. The lights going out is just Yamaha's way of showing that everything is off. The blue light is cool huh?
I think your Direct Stereo mode is their new name for Pure Direct. But I could be wrong.

How you liking it so far?

[Rich-n-Texas]

No no. I'm talking about my 5740. The 3800 is on the truck for delivery.

Sorry, should have mentioned that sooner. I'm getting drowsy waiting for the truck.

[bfalls]

It's now at the Plano Depot. Has anyone had product shipped via DHL? Good experiences? Bad experiences?

I had a very bad experience with DHL. We shipped a DVD encoder to the DigitalMoon Mastering facility in Toronto overnight priority for a Monday installation. We arrived on Monday. On-line tracking reported the package was in Toronto, but had not been delivered. We called to see if we could pick it up, but told it wasn't going to a facility and being transferred truck-to-truck and would be at the location by 10:30.

At 11:30 and no package, we called, went through the whols story and was told it would be delivered by 5:30. At 6:30 we called and was told the driver didn't have time to deliver, it would stay on the truck and be delivered early Tuesday. We weren't allowed to pick it up.

Tuesday, same situation. It didn't arrive at 8:00, or 10:30, or 2:30, or 5:30 as we were told each time we called and each time explaining having to explain the situation again because they weren't documentating the status. The entire time we're sitting, twiddling our thumbs and embarassed. Luckily DigitalMoon is part of Sony, so were understanding.

Wednesday when it hadn't arrived by noon we insisted on picking it up after being told they couldn't guarantee when it would arrive. Calling over and over, we were told we had to wait until after 5:30 when the truck returned from it's rounds. We finally received it around 7:30. The rest of our trip included late nights getting the encoder setup and tested. We no longer ship DHL. I more than happy to pass along my experience so everyone knows, at least in Toronto, DHL BLOWS!

[GMichael]

No no. I'm talking about my 5740. The 3800 is on the truck for delivery.

Sorry, should have mentioned that sooner. I'm getting drowsy waiting for the truck.

What are you doing with that HTR? Mine sounds great in the bedroom with a few cheap JBL bookshelf speakers.

[Rich-n-Texas]

The room that I've used to put my computers together is going to become my 2 channel room, but I don't know yet if my Pioneer components are going in there or my 5740.

I'd really like to use my old 3-way speakers but a midrange got damaged when one of my demon cats felt the need to use it as a scatching post, and a tweeter had its center dome pushed in. Those speakers are well matched with the SX-251R receiver, so I might try to find replacement drivers for them. I'll post some pics of them in the event someone knows where I can get replacements.

[audio amateur]

sell it on ebay

[f0rge]

did you get it yet? i'm curious to see how you like it, i'm looking to do a similar upgrade from my rather weak rx-v630 to the rx-v1800

[L.J.]

Well Rich, I hope your DHL experience is better than the one I had with UPS a few years ago.

UPS lost my C-1's

[Rich-n-Texas]

While I was sitting here typing my previous post, the DHL truck pulled up in front of my house. I went to the window so I could see the box before he brought it up to the door, and wouldn't ya know it, he moved the box to the edge of the van then uncerimoniously picked it up then dropped it right in the street. I couldn't believe it! So he picked up, knocked on the door, and when I opened it I said to him... Dude, you dropped that box on the ground. "No I didn't." I said yes you did, I watched you do it. I said, and further more I'm refusing shipment. He got this angry look on his face and said okay. I said where's shipping documents because I want to write "refused" on the paperwork. He said not necessary, scanned the bar code and walked away. Freakin' jerk!

I immediately called DHL CS and filed a complaint with their rep, and the nice lady assured me that there'll be no return shippment fee charge against me. Next I called 6ave and told them about the situation and the rep there also assured me I wouldn't have to pay return shipping, and another unit will be sent right away. He also told me they pack the original manufacturer's box inside a new "pristene" shipping box filled with packing material.

So while I had the guy on the phone I asked him how they're able to sell this unit so cheap. He said that in the case of Yamaha and some other manufacturers, 6ave hires former employees of those companies and these buyers then act as liasons between the two. Apparently the former employees that are now 6ave employees still hold some power with the manufacturer and are able to get product at reduced cost then pass the savings on to poor slobs like me. It sounded ligit to me, and I hung up with the feeling that everything's on the up-n-up.

What really stinks is I burned up timebank time by coming home and waiting, just to watch Magilla drop my NEW TOY, and I have to wait another 5 - 6 days for another one. Not only that, my wooden privacy fence blew down yesterday after strong winds came through the area. Typical.

[Rich-n-Texas]

sell it on ebay

What the cat?

[Luvin Da Blues]

That just sucks Rich..sorry to hear of your probs. Just think just one more thing to go wrong then you're home free for awhile. Peace

[L.J.]

Nope, I guess you didn't get as lucky. Ouch, sorry to hear that.

[f0rge]

if you think they didnt drop/throw/stand on that box 12 times before it showed up at your door then you're living in a fantasy world.

shipping companies are notoriously terrible for their negligence.

[GMichael]

Oh man, that sucks so much. I know how it feels to get your hopes up for something. The anticipation builds. You're about to get the big payoff, and the boat sinks!