Quote Originally Posted by musicman1999
This does not seem like an upgrade,I have not heard the Pioneer but I have heard the Harmon and it seemed very good.Why did you think you needed an upgrade and why did you think the Pioneer was better?

bill
musicman, i decided on an upgrade for a couple of reasons. First, my HK looses its memory and each time i went to the basement, i had to reconfigure the whole menu. After a year or so that got old. I also upgraded to a HD projector and HDMI connections became important. I choose this receiver because it was the best (on paper) for my budget.

Kex, i hear you on 'warm'. This may be my cup-of-tea. I also enjoy neutral sounding speakers as well....But, even in digital DD/DTS mode I hear the sharpness/edgeness/forward sound... sounds like the treble is turned up (and yes, i checked that).
I could be wrong here, but Pioneer changed their amp setup/config on the 1016. Much different approach than the 1014,1015. Anyone know more about this?

I had a 2801 Denon receiver with these Revels and liked the sound (neutral). Also, had a huge NAD 218 stereo amp (200 per) and did not like it. I'm wondering if my speakers just mate well with certain equipment. Maybe after all these years, i can 'hear' the difference equipment can make. Thank goodness my wife understands this disease!