Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
I've read the entire thread and I think I understand the basics. I've friends who are streaming movies from Netflix and thought they were getting as good as could get if they were using the Blu-Ray straight from the machine. I informed them loud and often that there was/is insufficient bandwidth to provide 1080 anything and 5.1 over the net YET. Now I can give them a more qualified answer thanks to Sir TT AND Geoffcin for helping to inform me.
Now Worf, before telling them that you are doing to get an identical experience from streaming that you get from Bluray disc, I am telling you that 1080p and 5.1 from streaming is no where close to what you get from the disc. Not EVEN close. However, for what streaming is right now, it is quite good.

1080p from a from a 4.5mbps stream will not have the color, clarity and detail that a Bluray disc has with a 25-40mbps data rate has. All you have to do is compare 2012, or some of the other high profile titles on Netflix with the disc, and you can clearly see that. The same with lossy DD+ compared with lossless 5.1 from the disc. While DD+ can get you 70% there, at the bitrates Neflix uses, I would say it is closer to 60% of lossless. An overwhelming amount of Netflix's movies offer only two channel stereo, and no amount of processing is going to make it sound like true 5.1, which is why I cannot understand anyone thinking it is true 5.1.

One question. Will there be mods to my Oppo Blu-Ray that will eventually give me what you Playstation folks are getting or will I have to "upgrade" when the new model comes out or will they give me a rebate for that upgrade. Enquiring minds wanna know.

Worf
I think Oppo will probably offer an upgrade so you Oppo folks will have what we will have on the PS3 if the hardware is up to the task. The PS3 got it first because it is an all software based player, and it is easier to code it for the upgrade. Chip based system's like the standalones require a bit more work to program its chips to handle the upgrades, but I don't think it is impossible to do.