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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Well, the same thing as said a decade ago about HD.
    Yes, but not by me.

    I was all over the HD evolution/revolution in the same way that I was thrilled to ditch my 8-track for cassette tapes, and later cassette tapes for CD's. Nothing drives me like taking the next step to AV nirvana.

    If by the next time that I upgrade my plasma I find that only the 3D variety are available, then so be it. I'll plop down my hard-earned ducats and think nothing of it. But right now 3D feels like more a sidestep than a leap forward to me. Maybe if I didn't have to wear the glasses to appreciate the effect I'd feel differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssJazz
    If by the next time that I upgrade my plasma I find that only the 3D variety are available, then so be it. I'll plop down my hard-earned ducats and think nothing of it. But right now 3D feels like more a sidestep than a leap forward to me. Maybe if I didn't have to wear the glasses to appreciate the effect I'd feel differently.
    The 3D spec is pretty much set, and it builds on the existing MPEG-4 standard. The updated MPEG-4 profile has already made its way into many of the latest video processors. With every successive model revision, more and more TVs, BD players, and set-top boxes will use the newer video processors that support the latest MPEG-4 profile.

    With other devices, the 3D feature will get added as a simple update. Millions of PS3s and Directv HD receivers running the latest system software are already enabled for 3D. That's why widespread adoption of 3D is IMO inevitable, and only a matter of time before it becomes just another standard feature.

    Where things get interesting will be with the implementation -- passive glasses, active glasses, or no glasses. But, regardless of which of those approaches a TV manufacturer takes, they will all use the same video signal format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    The 3D spec is pretty much set, and it builds on the existing MPEG-4 standard. The updated MPEG-4 profile has already made its way into many of the latest video processors. With every successive model revision, more and more TVs, BD players, and set-top boxes will use the newer video processors that support the latest MPEG-4 profile.

    With other devices, the 3D feature will get added as a simple update. Millions of PS3s and Directv HD receivers running the latest system software are already enabled for 3D. That's why widespread adoption of 3D is IMO inevitable, and only a matter of time before it becomes just another standard feature.

    Where things get interesting will be with the implementation -- passive glasses, active glasses, or no glasses. But, regardless of which of those approaches a TV manufacturer takes, they will all use the same video signal format.
    A process that causes headaches after a few hours is a "done deal", eh?

    TODAYS "shutter glasses have been supercharged with computer tech, while the ones tried in the eighties were automatic.
    BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, we are a nation of TV addicts, watch TV an average of four hours a day, thats two more than you need to cause a headache with 3D.
    Talk about being desperate for sales, never seen an entire industry run like lemmings
    off of a cliff.
    SAD, REALLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    A process that causes headaches after a few hours is a "done deal", eh?
    It may cause YOU headaches, but apparently not everyone experiences it.

    TODAYS "shutter glasses have been supercharged with computer tech, while the ones tried in the eighties were automatic.
    The glasses they used in the 80's where simple red/blue glasses which is not even in the same ballpark as shutter based systems.

    BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, we are a nation of TV addicts, watch TV an average of four hours a day, thats two more than you need to cause a headache with 3D.
    Talk about being desperate for sales, never seen an entire industry run like lemmings
    off of a cliff.
    SAD, REALLY.
    You repeat over and over headaches as if that is a given when watching 3D. It is not, and if it was, they would not sell a single 3D television set. It would be helpful if you posted factual information based on reality, not just your empty uneducated guesses about a technology you know nothing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    It may cause YOU headaches, but apparently not everyone experiences it.
    EVERYONE WITH BRAINS...sorry


    The glasses they used in the 80's where simple red/blue glasses which is not even in the same ballpark as shutter based systems.
    Are you going to force me to look up the several shutter systems , mostly popular in
    JAPAN, that circulated during the eighties?
    Also polarized glasses were popular(used on CAPT eo at Disney).
    BUT LIKE every 3d system ever made, they caused headaches


    You repeat over and over headaches as if that is a given when watching 3D. It is not, and if it was, they would not sell a single 3D television set. It would be helpful if you posted factual information based on reality, not just your empty uneducated guesses about a technology you know nothing about.
    Lie if you have to, shill, you know good and well that more than a couple of hours watching 3D causes headaches, as does anybody who watches for extended periods.
    WATCH your 3d TV for several hours, I DARE YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    EVERYONE WITH BRAINS...sorry
    Well, you should not be affected then, you have no brain.


    Are you going to force me to look up the several shutter systems , mostly popular in
    JAPAN, that circulated during the eighties?
    Also polarized glasses were popular(used on CAPT eo at Disney).
    BUT LIKE every 3d system ever made, they caused headaches
    I hate to bring this to you deadpixel, but Segascope 3D and Famicon 3D were for games, and only 8 games where produced. Neither was that popular in Japan, as there were very few games sold. Neither worked with movies, and neither are worth mentioning in the context of todays 3D.

    Secondly, it is not the technology that gives headaches, or everyone who watched 3D would get them. I don't, my kids don't, and apparently neither do millions of other folks. The headaches come from the individuals eyes - which are not able to focus on centrally located images, can't stay in focus with 3D, or have problems with depth perception of 3D images(makes them dizzy). Those of us that do not have those problems(between 88 and 94% of the public) freely enjoy 3D with no issues at all.

    Your headache argument has gone from a factual error to just a plain lie. You have stated it enough, and have been rebuffed with the facts. To continue mentioning it is not just a simple lie coming from a known liar.

    Lie if you have to, shill, you know good and well that more than a couple of hours watching 3D causes headaches, as does anybody who watches for extended periods.
    WATCH your 3d TV for several hours, I DARE YOU.
    Your dare has already been taken, and your comments disproven. I watched 6 hours of the world cup with no problems whatsoever. 3D does not cause headaches for everyone, and saying so is just a plain lie liar.
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    THERE was a system from Japan, was around for awhile.
    AND if you watched anything nonstop for six hours in 3D your brain(such as it is)
    would be fried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Are you going to force me to look up the several shutter systems , mostly popular in
    JAPAN, that circulated during the eighties?
    Also polarized glasses were popular(used on CAPT eo at Disney).
    BUT LIKE every 3d system ever made, they caused headaches1:
    Really? So you're going to make blind assumptions about the products of today based on 30 year old technology from Japan?

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    [QUOTE=bobsticks]Really? So you're going to make blind assumptions about the products of today based on 30 year old technology from Japan?

    YUP!

    Because, basically, as far as 3D is concerned, there is nothing new under the sun.
    Its all the basic gimmick of forcing the brain to do something unnatural.
    THATS because, when you get right down to it, we don't understand anything
    much about the human brain, or about the way it integrates two images into a single image with depth of field. We have theories, but thats about it.
    THEY found out a few years ago that serotonin affected moods, and along came a bunch
    of either serotonin inhibiting or enhancing drugs, basically using a stone axe to carve an
    integrated circuit out of a tree. THE guys who shot up Columbine were both on these
    drugs for their "disorder". GUESS you could say it cured their "disorder" since they
    are both dead(along with a bunch of other people).
    THERE IS NOTHING NEW about the basic theory behind current 3D, so why
    not believe that it will cause headaches just like all of the other incarnations of this tech?
    YOU WANNA be somebodies science project so you can watch a cartoon with a
    great depth of field, go ahead.
    BUT just remember, if you let your kids watch, you may someday have to answer to them,
    and I won't envy you for that.
    3D TV, LSD, and other drugs are proof positive that some people are so dumb that, if they can, they will take their brains out and play with them.
    Something I LIKE TO THINK OF AS EVOLUTION IN ACTION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    A process that causes headaches after a few hours is a "done deal", eh?
    Try reading before you go off on these crazed grammar-impaired rants. You might learn something.

    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    TODAYS "shutter glasses have been supercharged with computer tech, while the ones tried in the eighties were automatic.
    BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, we are a nation of TV addicts, watch TV an average of four hours a day, thats two more than you need to cause a headache with 3D.
    Talk about being desperate for sales, never seen an entire industry run like lemmings
    off of a cliff.
    SAD, REALLY.
    Again, this is now an official extension to the MPEG-4 standard. It will be on every new video processing chip.

    If you don't like 3D, then switch it off. All of your rantings about it don't matter one bit, because it's going to become a standard feature on new TVs.
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    3d

    I have seen 4 movies in 3D and was not impressed with any of them, guess it's just not for me. Maybe if they bring back sensearound +3D lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjp735i
    I have seen 4 movies in 3D and was not impressed with any of them, guess it's just not for me. Maybe if they bring back sensearound +3D lol
    I'm holding out for Smell-O-Vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    I'm holding out for Smell-O-Vision.
    For all that porn you watch?

    Oh geesh! I shouldn't have said that. I just know that I'll burn for that one?
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