Quote Originally Posted by winston View Post
airblue, most Receivers, that are classified as refurbished, isn't because they'r damage, or broken because of failed components, most of the times they gets discounted, because of late (firmware development) for "hand shake" issues,

sometimes there's nothing wrong with them... they just simple gets upgraded with two to three different models within months.

speaking of which, that's how Smart buyers gets great deals

and as mentioned, always get an extended warranty, good luck
That and sometimes they are just returns but they test and repackage them and cannot sell as new.