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    Guess that settles that. Thanks Smokey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not..........(editors comment: That statment pretty much says it all, but you prove that point over & over....read on.)

    ....what's the advantage of a 1080i projector? What is the native resolution of a DVD?..(editors comment: You proved you don't know or understand, but still claim 480p's superiority!.)

    .....Yeah like I said I'm no expert by any means, but everything I've read says that 480p is better than anything i...or interlaced...(editors comment: Admission that you don't know or understand, wow, guess you should have stuck with "I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080".)

    ....even though 1080i has more scan lines, it still suffers from interlacing which is why 480p is preferred over 1080i. ..(editors comment: This is when you REALLY start proving your point that you don't know or understand what you are talking about.)

    All I know is this..after demoing 1080i and 480p I preferred 480p because 1080i still suffers from interlacing...(editors comment: further proof of ignorance regarding the subject matter.)

    I guess I just don't understand scaling.....(editors comment: you have proved that, and you would have done yourself a HUGE favor if you would have just left it at that.)
    What Smokey is saying is that we could be arguing over symantics (Source Material vs Source Player). I think you have done a good job of proving you NEVER knew the difference from the beginning, but I was willing to let it go.

    But, good job N. Abstentia! Look at your quotes above to see that your a real genius when it comes to this HD stuff. Let's see....you say 480p is better than 1080i...LOL!! Dude, stop while you are ahead, and you can stop the pain. Stick to talking about subjects you actually have knowledge (Audio).

    I was willing to leave this thing alone, and let it rest, so, don't start again. I think it is apparant for all to see from your quotes above that you don't really know what you are talking about, and repeatedly show your ignorance when talking about HD. Or do you want to keep on saying how great 480p is and how it is "preferred over 1080i". Stick with your first quote "Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not".

    Keep watching your Native: 854x480 Pixels with 480 lines of resolution, and praising the superiority of 480p over 1080i. Don't even think about how nice HD is, because you are not ever going to be able to achieve anything even remotely close to it with your projector. But, that GREY PAINT for a screen will surely make the 480p look even better....lol! The nice thing is that you can go to Best Buy, or Circuit City and see HD on one of thier floor models (True HD display!) if you ever get tired of watching your $1000 projector that is "maxed-out" at 480 lines of resolution.
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    You must be one of those noobs who like to get the last word in, even when proven wrong. Ain't gonna happen here, bud. Give it up.

    How does it feel knowing that my painted screen spanks your uber-expensive screen?

    How does it feel knowing that you'll never get proper sound with inwall speakers? I'll also bet that huge couch right in the middle of the room does wonders for your soundstage.

    Must suck to be you.

    Enjoy your crap speakers and overpriced screen and don't worry about trying to reply to things you seem to think I said. We wrote you off 15 posts ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393

    your a real genious when it comes to this HD stuff. [/I]
    God I love it when some noob tries to be smarter than he actually is. Nothing better than not knowing how to spell 'genius' when you're trying to cut somebody down!! LOL!!

    Also, it should be "you're a real genius" and not "your a real genious".

    Enjoy your inwalls. Maybe someday you can upgrade to Bose.

    BWAAAA HAA HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    You must be one of those noobs who like to get the last word in, even when proven wrong. Ain't gonna happen here, bud. Give it up.

    How does it feel knowing that my painted screen spanks your uber-expensive screen?

    How does it feel knowing that you'll never get proper sound with inwall speakers? I'll also bet that huge couch right in the middle of the room does wonders for your soundstage.

    Must suck to be you.

    Enjoy your crap speakers and overpriced screen and don't worry about trying to reply to things you seem to think I said. We wrote you off 15 posts ago.
    Proved me wrong about what? Do you believe you have convinced me how great 480p is and how it is "preferred over 1080i". Now you want to start saying how a GREY PAINTED WALL "spanks" a Draper fixed screen that cost 3x as much as your projector alone...lol! You are a piece of work. Stick with your first quote "Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not".

    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    ...don't worry about trying to reply to things you seem to think I said
    I don't "seem to think" you said those things....those are DIRECT QUOTES from YOU in this very thread.

    Dude....get back on your meds. Your not well. Like I said, Keep watching your Native: 854x480 Pixels with 480 lines of resolution, and praising the superiority of 480p over 1080i. Don't even think about how nice HD is, because you are not ever going to be able to achieve anything even remotely close to it with your $1000 projector that is "maxed-out" at 480 lines of resolution, and projecting on a GREY PAINTED WALL for a screen!
    Let's see, you say:
    1) 480p is "preferred over 1080i"
    2) A GREY PAINTED WALL "spanks" a Draper fixed screen.
    Next you will be raving about the new BOSE SPEAKERS you just bought at the same DISCOUNT HOUSE you bought the rest of the junk you got in your HT, and how they are "preferred over" anything else!

    Like I said, your much better off sticking with your first quote "Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not." Post #10
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    Screen: 133" 16:9
    AVR: Denon (Flagship) 5800
    LRC-Mains: Definitive Technology (Flagship) BP3000-TL
    Surrounds: Atlantic Technology (Flush-Mount) System 20eSR
    LFE-Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer
    HD Satellite / DVR: VIP DVR622 Receiver (30+ Hrs of HD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    Proved me wrong about what? Do you believe you have convinced me how great 480p is and how it is "preferred over 1080i". Now you want to start saying how a GREY PAINTED WALL "spanks" a Draper fixed screen that cost 3x as much as your projector alone...lol! You are a piece of work. Stick with your first quote "Well to be honest I really don't know much about resolutions and 480 and 1080 and what not".

    I don't "seem to think" you said those things....those are DIRECT QUOTES from YOU in this very thread.

    Dude....get back on your meds. Your not well. Like I said, Keep watching your Native: 854x480 Pixels with 480 lines of resolution, and praising the superiority of 480p over 1080i. Don't even think about how nice HD is, because you are not ever going to be able to achieve anything even remotely close to it with your projector. But, that GREY PAINT for a screen will surely make the 480p look even better....lol! The nice thing is that you can go to Best Buy, or Circuit City anytime and see HD on one of thier floor models (True HD display!) if you ever get tired of watching your $1000 projector that is "maxed-out" at 480 lines of resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Don't I hear some puppies calling you?
    SHHHHHHHHHhhhh..........nobody pulled your string.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert393
    SHHHHHHHHHhhhh..........nobody pulled your string.
    But don't you think it's time to give it a rest?
    WARNING! - The Surgeon General has determined that, time spent listening to music is not deducted from one's lifespan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    But don't you think it's time to give it a rest?
    Absolutely. You are 100% right, and I couldn't agree more. Tell that to N. Abstentia. I agree to not post to this thread (regarding him) anymore if he will. In other words, I won't talk to him, he don't talk to me on this thread ANYMORE.
    Robert
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    AVR: Denon (Flagship) 5800
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    Surrounds: Atlantic Technology (Flush-Mount) System 20eSR
    LFE-Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer
    HD Satellite / DVR: VIP DVR622 Receiver (30+ Hrs of HD)
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    I think the thing you're incorrectly assuming is that I actually give a flying flip about having a 1080i display. That's another area where you're wrong...I don't care. I really don't. I don't have a 1080i source, so I could care less about having a display that will display it. This system is designed for home theater, not watching TV. The best signal the projector can possibly get is a 480p DVD, because that's all that is hooked to it! That makes 1080i USELESS to me at this point. THAT'S WHY I PREFER 480P. Why should I pay double for a projector that's 1080 native when I can't even use it? It will display 480p exactly like a 480 native projector.

    I'm glad you've decided to bow out and go away, lets see if you can stick to your word.

    And just so you'll know...my front speakers cost more than your screen/projector/inwalls combined. Think about that before you call something you've never heard of 'junk'. Just because they don't sell it at Best Buy with the rest of your equipment does not mean it's junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
    I think the thing you're incorrectly assuming is that I actually give a flying flip about having a 1080i display. That's another area where you're wrong...I don't care. I really don't. I don't have a 1080i source, so I could care less about having a display that will display it. This system is designed for home theater, not watching TV. The best signal the projector can possibly get is a 480p DVD, because that's all that is hooked to it! That makes 1080i USELESS to me at this point. THAT'S WHY I PREFER 480P. Why should I pay double for a projector that's 1080 native when I can't even use it? It will display 480p exactly like a 480 native projector.

    I'm glad you've decided to bow out and go away, lets see if you can stick to your word.

    And just so you'll know...my front speakers cost more than your screen/projector/inwalls combined. Think about that before you call something you've never heard of 'junk'. Just because they don't sell it at Best Buy with the rest of your equipment does not mean it's junk.
    Ahhh....you couldn't shut up could you! I'll gladly bow out of conversing with you anymore in this thread, but I'll not go away........you got a problem with that, then it's your problem. I was here LOOOONG before you, and will probably be here long after you flitter away.

    But, it REALLY is too bad you don't have any HD sources available to you, when so many are available to everybody else. Let's see: ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, PBS, (all of which are available FREE with a simple OTA antenna). VOOM (21- TRUE HD Channels & cost $5 per month), SHOWTIME, HBO, ESPN, HDNET, HDNMV (MOVIES), DISCOVERY & TNT are also available for a small monthy fee. Not to even mention D-VHS MOVIES http://www.dvhsmovie.com/movies/trailerpark.asp
    Wow....you can't watch ANY HD....You actually BUILT a dedicated HT that is not capable of reproducing HD, AND YOUR PROUD OF IT....LOL!!!!!!!

    If you REALLY love movies and enjoy the art of video and DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REPRODUCE HD.....Dude, you are REALLY missing out. Don't ask me, ask ANYBODY. HD is the "Holy Grail" of video. HD rules! Looks like you "missed-the-boat"!

    And now for your speakers. From reading your bio I see you have the Paradigm Active 40's! And you brag "my front speakers cost more than your screen/projector/inwalls combined". You got to be kidding me....RIGHT? Those babies (and I DO MEAN BABIES!) are INTERNALLY POWERED, 3-way BOOK SHELF speakers that RETAILED for less than $2000.00 for a PAIR with AMP INCLUDED! That's some BUDGET Book- Shelf speakers dude!
    http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/parad...4_1594crx.aspx
    Paradigm is a value speaker, at best! "Their most expensive speaker combination is actually a pair of Active/40 speakers with a Servo 15 subwoofer -- $3500 in total. This is hardly an expensive setup in high-end terms"- http://www.soundstagelive.com/factorytours/paradigm/

    My center channel (alone!) cost more than your Paradigm Active 40's!

    Man, you GOTTA GET BACK ON YOUR MEDS...LOL!!!

    You REALLY want to see an equipment list? Try finding any of this at the DISCOUNT STORE you bought your junk from!

    AVR
    Denon 5800 (7.1 170w x 7)

    Projector
    JVC DLA-SX21U (LCOS 1.5m Pixel)

    Lens
    Panamorph PSO-SX21

    Screen
    Draper 133" 16:9

    Black Masking Borders
    Light Absorbing Border Eliminates “Over-Scan”

    Speakers
    Mains-
    Def Tech BP3000TL (Bipolar w/ (1) 18" 1000w
    powered sub in each)
    Center Channel
    Def Tech C/L/R 3000 (Mono-Pole w/ (1) 10" 150w
    powered sub))
    L/R surrounds & L/R Rear Surrounds-
    In-Wall Flush mounted (THX-Ultra) Atlantic Technology
    System 20eSR Dipoles

    LFE-Subwoofer
    1-(2700w) Sunfire True Subwoofer

    DVD-Audio/Video Player
    Panasonic RP-91k DVD-Audio Player

    HD Satellite / DVR
    DVR 942 Receiver (Dish network)

    HD VCR
    JVC SR-VD400US Pro D-VHS (True 1080i transmission via Component)

    Wire and cabling
    Straight Wire, and Audio Quest.

    All this in a dedicated HT room measuring 26'x17'.

    Now....just keep talking, the more you talk, the more of a fool you look! I'm done with you. Anybody reading this can discern for themselves that you don't know what you are talking about and that you are ignorant.
    I'm going to go watch Terminator 2 in HD and get ready to pop some pop-corn and get ready to watch Monday Night Football in HD on my 133" Screen!
    Boy, you must be SICK that you got a dedicated HT room and can't watch HD....that must REALLY suck for you.
    Good Riddance......I'm done with you.
    Robert
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    Screen: 133" 16:9
    AVR: Denon (Flagship) 5800
    LRC-Mains: Definitive Technology (Flagship) BP3000-TL
    Surrounds: Atlantic Technology (Flush-Mount) System 20eSR
    LFE-Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer
    HD Satellite / DVR: VIP DVR622 Receiver (30+ Hrs of HD)
    HD VCR: JVC SR-VD400US Pro D-VHS (True 1080i transmission via Component)

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    N. Abstentia, I sincerely apologize for all I said about your HT. I just went to your Home Page site and viewed the pics.
    http://www.chuckamuck.com/ht/
    I'm sure your dedicated HT room & equipment, cost more than the existing house is worth! Dude, I feel sorry for you if you actually have to live in that house....or is that house just for storage (like a barn or something?).

    More power to you.....and God bless you! Hopefully you are getting some of that FEMA money for Huricane Victims or something.........

    Peace!
    Robert
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    AVR: Denon (Flagship) 5800
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    Surrounds: Atlantic Technology (Flush-Mount) System 20eSR
    LFE-Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer
    HD Satellite / DVR: VIP DVR622 Receiver (30+ Hrs of HD)
    HD VCR: JVC SR-VD400US Pro D-VHS (True 1080i transmission via Component)

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    What are you talking about? Surely you don't think the storage shed where the screen testing was done is the finished room? Are you a moron? Seriously...can you read?

    And just so you know..a friend of mine is a Def Tech dealer. You couldn't pay me to take that stuff home. A single Servo 15 destroys all your 'built in' subs combined. All-in-one speakers are NOT the way to go. It also seems a shame for you to spend so much money then only have a RECEIVER. Ever heard of seperates?

    Enjoy your INWALL speakers. I wouldn't even install your speakers in my storage shed!! LOL!!

    Go away now, you're boring me.

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    I hope you guys keep going at it, I'm having a blast. This is the first thread I go to when I go online. Keep up with the entertainment.

    Hey N, I know you are getting a little frustrated but you come up with some of your best stuff.

    I think if it keeps going eric will most likely put this thread into the steal cage and then you guys can really go at it. LOL

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    Yeah I thought Smokey pretty much ended it at post #75 when he was about the 3rd person to try to explain what 480p meant but alas...here we are at post #90! Sadly some people just don't get it. Eric will probably just have to delete this thread to get "Mr. Last Word" to stop and he can just go on thinking I've got a 125" screen in my 16' x 8' lawn mower shed

    Oh well, this whole thing is generating tons of traffic to my website, lets keep it going!

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