Frustrated with Harman Kardon!

[kexodusc]

WTF?? Do you live in a rocket ship or something? Is gravity different where you are?
This is ridiculous. I can't imagine the frustration you must be going through.
H/K must be thinking you're playing games with them by now (or they know how crappy their products are).
Evem Sony on it's worst day wouldn't give you the troubles you've had.
I'm speechless. I've never met anyone as unlucky as you bjornb17...don't know what else to say. I'll pray for you.

[bjornb17]

I woke up this morning and when i turned on the FL8385, the mechanism that turns the carosel broke. Now it will just open and close and not spin. This was a brand new unit and is only about a week old Oh well, on to unit #5 or a refund.

[Geoffcin]

I woke up this morning and when i turned on the FL8385, the mechanism that turns the carosel broke. Now it will just open and close and not spin. This was a brand new unit and is only about a week old Oh well, on to unit #5 or a refund.

You should be working for Underwriter Labratories. (UL)

[kexodusc]

And how did my reply get posted before your latest post?

[bjornb17]

WTF?? Do you live in a rocket ship or something? Is gravity different where you are?
This is ridiculous. I can't imagine the frustration you must be going through.
H/K must be thinking you're playing games with them by now (or they know how crappy their products are).
Evem Sony on it's worst day wouldn't give you the troubles you've had.
I'm speechless. I've never met anyone as unlucky as you bjornb17...don't know what else to say. I'll pray for you.

Actually i live on the international space station. I'm not sure if i forgot to mention that

I am so tempted to pick up the unit right now and throw it out of my second-floor window, but that will hurt my chances of getting a refund. I'm at the point where i just want HK to refund my money for the FL8385 AND DVD22. I dont even care about getting an exchange anymore, even if its for a better unit. For the time being, BOTH of them are broken. What pieces of crap

As for H/K, i'm curious to know what they are thinking too. They have 1 main person that works in the customer service and for the past few months he's been asnwering atleast 1 email a week from me related to problems with HK units.

[GMichael]

Oh man that sucks. It's good that they don't just blow you off but come on. Enough is enough. What are they building these things out of?

[bjornb17]

Oh man that sucks. It's good that they don't just blow you off but come on. Enough is enough. What are they building these things out of?

I am actually curious about opening up the FL8385 to see what's inside

[GMichael]

I am actually curious about opening up the FL8385 to see what's inside

It's a camera. Once you get the top off it will snap your picture and say, "Kiss your warranty goodbye sucker."

[Eric Z]

Are you kidding me, Bjorn? It's actually a little humorous what you're going through- on my side, not yours obviously. Are you pulling our legs? Are you serious about all of this bad luck with HK. I have to ask since I've never heard anyting like this Seriously though, this makes me never want to buy an HK product EVER! Even though it sounds like their service is good since they are working with you. At this point, you must be ready to just say, **** it! I agree, I wouldn't even want an upgrade a couple steps above- especially since odds are it's going to malfunction!

Good luck!
Eric

[bjornb17]

anyway, i just fired the unit up right now and somehow its working again like there was no problem. What's the deal lol.

[bjornb17]

Are you pulling our legs?

APRIL FOOLS BAHAHAHAHA i gotcha all good















just kidding, i really am having all of these problems

[Eric Z]

Let us know when you hear from HK about the next steps.

[mygear]

I have no experience with HK, but just think the receivers are trying to looks a little too futuristic- like it's from Mercury with the blue light around the volume knob. However, looks really don't matter too much to me since all of my equipment is behind glass doors and it's easy not to notice them too much. I've heard HK are overpriced- is that true?

I totally agree, HK stuff looks way to futuristic for me too. I have an older HK PA5800 amp and it is rock solid and played great for years. I used an HK AVR 20 II for the preamp. And they both still work perfectly. I didn't have the same luck with an HK cd changer. FL8550, I had three of them, and each one crapped out. Terrible peice of equipment!! But at the time I thought they sounded good. Until I heard CD players from Cambrige Audio, Music Hall, and Jolida. They Blow HK away in terms of sound quality.

[GMichael]

APRIL FOOLS BAHAHAHAHA i gotcha all good















just kidding, i really am having all of these problems

Blow me






A kiss

[GMichael]

Okay


















































haha you looked.

I looked for the reply button so I could try and stop you. You're not my type dude. I like my women with less facial hair.

[bjornb17]

Blow me






A kiss

Okay


















































haha you looked.

[GMichael]

In case you forgot, you're the one that asked for the kiss

BTW i have a girlfriend.


So don't tell her.

I would die first.

[bjornb17]

I looked for the reply button so I could try and stop you. You're not my type dude. I like my women with less facial hair.

In case you forgot, you're the one that asked for the kiss

BTW i have a girlfriend.











So don't tell her.

[bjornb17]

hey guys,

I've been gone for a while (working on a new model airplane project that's taking tons of time).

Anyway, i got my new DVD27 last week. It's very similar to the DVD22, but it has a few differences.

1) The cosmetics seem to be a bit nicer. The front panel is more minimalist, now using black buttons instead of the silver ones on the DVD22. Also the blue "on" light has a slight turquoise hue to it. Nice touch, in my opinion. It's not different enough to be very obvious in comparison to the lights on the cd player and receiver, but it can be noticed if you look close enough.
2) The unit itself is smaller and lighter. I'm not sure how i feel about this, since i like having clunky things that are built like a rock. Construction quality still feels pretty solid. Its an inch or two less deep than the DVD22 and weight a couple of pounds less.
3) They fixed the digital-out jacks. No longer does it take 2 seconds to lock onto the sound format, it happens instantly. I thought this was a receiver issue but apparantely it was the DVD player.
4) The graphic it displays while in "Stop" mode is much nicer than the only one on the DVD22.
5) The remote is different. I can't say that it is better, just different. It suffers from the same problems as the old one. However, now the play, stop, and pause buttons are smaller. However the remote itself looks somewhat nicer.
6) Better layout of outputs on the back.

I did notice a small problem though. When i first set it to "progressive scan", the graphics were are jargled up. turning the unit off and back on fixed this, and now its running very nicely.

overall i like it a lot more than the DVD22. I guess the exchange worked out in my favor

[GMichael]

At least something good came of all your troubles. Good luck with it.

[Eric Z]

i'm sure you'll be happy with something that just keeps on working

[Feanor]

I'm starting to get irritated by all the problems that my Harman Kardon products have. ...

I have a Harmon Kardon 330A receiver I bought circa 1973 -- still works well. I'm using in my bedroom system; listen to FM on it every day.