Denon, Yamaha or Marantz Receiver

[woodman]

So are you saying Yamaha is impervious to the current marketing trend of building everything cheaper? I'm not buying that.

No, I'm not saying that Yamaha is somehow impervious to anything - but I am saying that today they are building the BEST products in terms of value/performance/reliability available in the marketplace ... period. I wouldn't consider for even a minute buying an A/V receiver from any other company today ... especially Denon or Marantz! No contest.

[grampi]

Bullcrap! Denons are every bit as good as Yamahas.

[zapr]

Bullcrap! Denons are every bit as good as Yamahas.

.........no there NOT!.........and another thing.......glad there's no bias on this site.

[grampi]

.........no there NOT!.........and another thing.......glad there's no bias on this site.

Man, are you brainwashed! I'm not biased. I happen to think Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, H/K, and Marantz are all equally very good units, separated by personal preference of features and price. I fail to see how the Yamahas are clearly superior to the others. They're just as good, but not any better.

[Woochifer]

Man, are you brainwashed! I'm not biased. I happen to think Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, H/K, and Marantz are all equally very good units, separated by personal preference of features and price. I fail to see how the Yamahas are clearly superior to the others. They're just as good, but not any better.

They are all good units, but the reliability factor in favor of Yamaha is something I've heard from friends of mine who've worked AV sales over the years. It's not that they're incapable of building a defective unit or that the others can't build a stellar unit, it's just that Yamaha's had a more consistent track record over the years.

With all the outsourcing that's going on in the industry right now, Yamaha's one of the few companies out there that does almost all of its own manufacturing. (And they're the only one that makes their own processors and other ICs) Denon, Marantz, and h/k, among others, outsource some of their receiver models, and that's where Marantz and h/k have run into major problems on some production runs. Denon's also shifted around their outsourcing facilities the past couple of years, but I haven't heard of any problems on the order of what Marantz and h/k have encountered.

[spacedeckman]

You know Woodman is right, and basing his statements on his hands on experience. I know he's right, based on my years of hands on experience. Other people that service this stuff know he's right, based on their years of experience. That doesn't make his opinon any less valid...no wait a minute. Grampi is allowed to have any opinion he wants. It's a free country. Now give him his Metamucil, and if he behaves for the next couple of days, let him have a Viagra.

It would really hack him off if I said the Yamahas sound better too, wouldn't it. I better not go there.

Stay out of trouble Wooch

Space

[grampi]

Naw, I wouldn't be hacked. The difference in SQ is perceived, not real. IOW, it's a fig newton of your imagination.

[dotcom]

Hip Hip Hooray. Woodman has got it right. My first A/V DTS Reciever was a Pioneer. Then I decided I wanted 5.1 Channel RCA outputs so I could run my fronts through my stereo system. Ergo sell the Pioneer & buy the Yamaha RX-V800. To me Yamaha is head & shoulders above mid fi names like Sony Pioneer Marantz Denon Onkyo. When you get your hands on a Yamaha you will "feel" the difference. These things are built like tanks. Don't wuss out. Buy a RX-V2400 at minimum. Plus you get a remote included which will run all your components. I am liking the Marantz 8400 DVD player.