Denon DVD-2200 - 24/96 PCM signals

[mattlevy]

In response to your inquiry, go back to the Denon website and find the DVD-2200 product description. Starting on the 10th line from the bottom, it says "24/96 digital output, optical and coaxial." One (at least me) must assume this means 24/96 PCM signals, in addition to any Dolby Digital or DTS 24/96 signals. On the user manual, on page 13, it has a chart showing the downconversion I am talking about. Unless the copyright protection is off, 24/96 PCM is downconverted to 16 bit 44.1 khz or 16 bit 48 khz. Sorry I misnamed the PCM acronym.

[recoveryone]

Hey guys, for the most part you are right, but I have a DVD (ultimate DVD Silver edition) that has copyright free music that plays 96kHz Stereo digitally. A matter of fact I heard the song (jazz) playing in background on a commerical during the NFC championship game. When I play the song my receiver clicks over to 96kHz Stereo displayed.

[kexodusc]

Recoveryone: Would I be correct in assuming that the software that protects copyrights in these digital formats is what instructs the dvd players to down-convert the signal, in which case Denon isn't on the hook for misrepresenting their product?

[recoveryone]

Recoveryone: Would I be correct in assuming that the software that protects copyrights in these digital formats is what instructs the dvd players to down-convert the signal, in which case Denon isn't on the hook for misrepresenting their product?

I'm a noob to all this DVD-A/SACD stuff, but I do enjoy good clean sounding music. I was just as disappointed as Mattlevy about the playback of these so-called High Rez disks. I had the (ultimate DVD) for a while and never paid much attention to it cause I didn't have any other Commerical High Rez disks. I thought they all would play like the sample disk did. When I purchased the 45a and read some of the post on here I got a little interested, but was confused about the lack of my receivers displaying the 96kHz or at least 48kHz like the sample disk did. Both of my systems are able to playback the format. My bedroom system Pioneer VSX D411 and DV-525 played the DD&DTS version of the DVD-A disk, but no 48kHz or 96kHz and my Family room system played the DVD-A 2.0 & 3/2 High rez and the SACD in 2.0. As far as copyrights instruction I would believe this must be the case, DVD players are software driven and only do what the software lets them do ie: angle changing view on a movie.

[recoveryone]

I'm a noob to all this DVD-A/SACD stuff, but I do enjoy good clean sounding music. I was just as disappointed as Mattlevy about the playback of these so-called High Rez disks. I had the (ultimate DVD) for a while and never paid much attention to it cause I didn't have any other Commerical High Rez disks. I thought they all would play like the sample disk did. When I purchased the 45a and read some of the post on here I got a little interested, but was confused about the lack of my receivers displaying the 96kHz or at least 48kHz like the sample disk did. Both of my systems are able to playback the format. My bedroom system Pioneer VSX D411 and DV-525 played the DD&DTS version of the DVD-A disk, but no 48kHz or 96kHz and my Family room system played the DVD-A 2.0 & 3/2 High rez and the SACD in 2.0. As far as copyrights instruction I would believe this must be the case, DVD players are software driven and only do what the software lets them do ie: angle changing view on a movie.

I went through my collection and found the DVD (ultimate DVD Silver) and played the music section and Bang! the 96kHz display came on. The song, Blues for Danny is by Joe Stanley, King of the Honky Tonk Sax Album. But it may be as Woochifer said, these disk are rare and far between. I like it over the DVD-A and SACD and the sound is digitally sent. I played both style of disk and could not hear a real difference, but the Bass management was right on with the 96kHz disk. The DVD-A, I had to manually switch it to 3/2 by remote so my sub would kick in. The SACD, just no love for Sat & Sub setups.

[mtrycraft]

Starting on the 10th line from the bottom, it says "24/96 digital output, optical and coaxial." One (at least me) must assume this means 24/96 PCM signals, in addition to any Dolby Digital or DTS 24/96 signals.

Did you contact Denon and ask what they mean by this description? Send them an email and see what the mean.
But you are correct, if that is on the web site which I have no reason to doubt you, I didn't check, it means what you expect.
Tell them, if there are exceptions, that should be explained up front, not in the owners manual as by then you have the component which you may not really want.

[mattlevy]

Did you contact Denon and ask what they mean by this description? Send them an email and see what the mean.
But you are correct, if that is on the web site which I have no reason to doubt you, I didn't check, it means what you expect.
Tell them, if there are exceptions, that should be explained up front, not in the owners manual as by then you have the component which you may not really want.

I did e-mail Denon the same time I put up my original post. I am still awaiting their reply. I predict they will try to spin doctor the subject. If anyone knows of any other non-copyright protected 24/96 PCM material, let us all know. As for the commercial in 96 khz, that is very interesting for TV, especially for Fox which is not even in true hi-def yet. If you do look at the back of Queen's "The Game" DVD-Audio, it gives 3 options: 24/96 DVD-Audio, 24/96 DTS, and 24/96 PCM stereo. If anyone can play option 3 in true 24 bit 96 khz, let us know what you are using and doing.