Ain't it Funny How Vizio.....

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[QUOTE=Woochifer;362507]In other words, every point I made was TRUE and not the "nonsense" that you claimed it was. And BTW, there are people out there that do care about these issues, that's why they don't buy Vizios.
Good for them.
HOW VIZIO builds their sets, etc, matters to fewer people than you think, especially since it matters not as far as quality is concerned.
BASICALLY its all you could drum up to attack this company,
you couldnt find anything that matters, like serious qualioty issues, etc, so you cite insignificant facts and try to blow them up like they matter... WHEN NOBODY CARES.
NONE of your "issues" has kept VIZIO from becoming the number one panel maker, because , again...
NOBODY CARES

Quite the contrary, they are moving up market because they HAVE TO. Right now, they are in a bad competitive position in the entry level because they can no longer maintain a price advantage over the first tier brands. If they stayed in their previous market niche, they will die on the vine because consumers are not going to choose Vizio over first tier brands if the prices are comparable.

But the quality isnt, which is probably what you hate about this company above all else, they have found out how to make a decent TV at a decent price, something your masters fail at.
IN vizios world there is no room for a parasitical army of middlemen, sorry about that

In other words, you're a fanboy.

In other words what you say DOESNT MATTER.

[Woochifer]

Good for them.
HOW VIZIO builds their sets, etc, matters to fewer people than you think, especially since it matters not as far as quality is concerned.

And how do you know? Since when do you speak for everyone who shops for a TV?

BASICALLY its all you could drum up to attack this company,
you couldnt find anything that matters, like serious qualioty issues, etc, so you cite insignificant facts and try to blow them up like they matter... WHEN NOBODY CARES.

How's it an attack to state facts? Your assertions about "nobody" caring are patently false, given that millions of consumers don't buy Vizios for any number of reasons.

NONE of your "issues" has kept VIZIO from becoming the number one panel maker, because , again...
NOBODY CARES

And of course, your reply speaks to your persistent ignorance of facts. Vizio is not the "number one panel maker" given that they don't make anything. They are merely a reseller and marketer for TVs made by somebody else.

But the quality isnt, which is probably what you hate about this company above all else, they have found out how to make a decent TV at a decent price, something your masters fail at.

It's only recently that their TV reliability has gotten to the industry average, and that's in large part due to the fact that their pricing is now also approaching the industry average.

IN vizios world there is no room for a parasitical army of middlemen, sorry about that

Do you even know what a middleman is? The very definition of one is the brand name stamped on your TV.

In other words what you say DOESNT MATTER.

Only to you, because I prefer facts rather than paranoid jibberish.

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And how do you know? Since when do you speak for everyone who shops for a TV?

Since when do you?.
THE WAY VIZIO "builds" TV sets is a lot more popular than
you would admit to, as a matter of fact its rather common.
TELL the truth, do you really think JOE SIX is looking
at a set and wondering about the outsourcing, design philosophy, etc, or is he wondering about the best set for
the best price? TELL THE TRUTH.

How's it an attack to state facts? Your assertions about "nobody" caring are patently false, given that millions of consumers don't buy Vizios for any number of reasons.

millions of people don't buy tomatoes, bacon, etc for any number of reasons.
I CAN GUARENTEE that of all of the people shopping for a new panel...none were considering outsourcing practices, etc,
when looking at one, any more than they care about where
stuff is made, etc. THEY JUST WANT GOOD as cheap as possible

And of course, your reply speaks to your persistent ignorance of facts. Vizio is not the "number one panel maker" given that they don't make anything. They are merely a reseller and marketer for TVs made by somebody else.

MORE LAWYERESE, THERE IS A HUGE Mercedes BENZE
factory just down the road from my house.
I GUESS that they arent making any MERCEDES BENZES
because most of the parts come from somewhere else.
GIMMIE A BREAK.

It's only recently that their TV reliability has gotten to the industry average, and that's in large part due to the fact that their pricing is now also approaching the industry average.

Actually, no. THIS IS false logic, like assuming something is bad for you just because people doing it die at a higher rate.
I HAVE TWO, they haven't failed, my brother has two, they haven't failed
MATTER of fact I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS A vizio
that has suffered a failure.

Do you even know what a middleman is? The very definition of one is the brand name stamped on your TV.

YES I DO, but obviously you don't.

Only to you, because I prefer facts rather than paranoid jibberish. :[/QUOTE]

YOU PREFER useless "facts" that have nothing to do with anything, this being because the MAIN facts are that VIZIO
is more popular than any other brand, and have a decent price,
and perform well.
All of these facts matter, outsourcing(which all manufacturers do)
and other considerations affect buyer decisions not at all.

[Woochifer]

Since when do you?.
THE WAY VIZIO "builds" TV sets is a lot more popular than
you would admit to, as a matter of fact its rather common.
TELL the truth, do you really think JOE SIX is looking
at a set and wondering about the outsourcing, design philosophy, etc, or is he wondering about the best set for
the best price? TELL THE TRUTH.

Try demanding "truth" from someone when you learn what "build" actually means.

millions of people don't buy tomatoes, bacon, etc for any number of reasons.
I CAN GUARENTEE that of all of the people shopping for a new panel...none were considering outsourcing practices, etc,
when looking at one, any more than they care about where
stuff is made, etc. THEY JUST WANT GOOD as cheap as possible

Again, how do you know what "all of the people shopping for a new panel" are looking for? All those shopping trips to Sam's Club make you some all-knowing supreme being?

MORE LAWYERESE,

Nope, just more simple words that you don't understand.

THERE IS A HUGE Mercedes BENZE
factory just down the road from my house.
I GUESS that they arent making any MERCEDES BENZES
because most of the parts come from somewhere else.
GIMMIE A BREAK.

Try try try again, but you continue to fail. How disappointing that you can't even get your analogies straight. Like booze, you gotta stop mixing them together.

Mercedes actually designs their own cars and makes most of the major components.

Vizio does not design anything, and does not make anything. Need me to repeat that again, or are you just trolling?

Actually, no. THIS IS false logic, like assuming something is bad for you just because people doing it die at a higher rate.
I HAVE TWO, they haven't failed, my brother has two, they haven't failed
MATTER of fact I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS A vizio
that has suffered a failure.

Actually yes. It's only false logic to you because you don't get it.

YES I DO, but obviously you don't.

So, how is a company that does none of its own manufacturing, none of its own customer support, none of its own parts distribution, none of its own repair servicing, and none of its own product design, not functioning as the "middleman"?

YOU PREFER useless "facts" that have nothing to do with anything, this being because the MAIN facts are that VIZIO
is more popular than any other brand, and have a decent price,
and perform well.
All of these facts matter, outsourcing(which all manufacturers do)
and other considerations affect buyer decisions not at all.

Again, I prefer facts. They're only useless to you because Vizio fanboys would rather ignore them.

[Smokey]

Vizio does not design anything, and does not make anything. Need me to repeat that again, or are you just trolling?

Please do not repeat as it might not be true

Although everything is outsourced, Vizio do design their own products......

"As part of the business model, CEO Wang outsources several tasks to professional management companies. By hiring other companies to handle warehousing, shipping or manufacturing, VIZIO can focus on its core competencies — like designing flat-panel TVs — while leaving the other things to people who are specialized in that area. Although the company designs its products, the assembly is contracted to companies in China, Taiwan and Mexico."

http://www.sbnonline.com/2008/05/the...rket/?paging=1

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Please do not repeat as it might not be true

Although everything is outsourced, Vizio do design their own products......

"As part of the business model, CEO Wang outsources several tasks to professional management companies. By hiring other companies to handle warehousing, shipping or manufacturing, VIZIO can focus on its core competencies — like designing flat-panel TVs — while leaving the other things to people who are specialized in that area. Although the company designs its products, the assembly is contracted to companies in China, Taiwan and Mexico."

http://www.sbnonline.com/2008/05/the...rket/?paging=1

Smoke,
They can do the actual designs, but if the parts and processors were not designed to optimally work with that design, then the performance of the set is compromised. This is the case with Vizio televisions. This is why their sets usually finish in the middle to the bottom of the pack when compared with other sets.

[Woochifer]

Please do not repeat as it might not be true

Although everything is outsourced, Vizio do design their own products......

"As part of the business model, CEO Wang outsources several tasks to professional management companies. By hiring other companies to handle warehousing, shipping or manufacturing, VIZIO can focus on its core competencies — like designing flat-panel TVs — while leaving the other things to people who are specialized in that area. Although the company designs its products, the assembly is contracted to companies in China, Taiwan and Mexico."

http://www.sbnonline.com/2008/05/the...rket/?paging=1

And what are they "designing"? The case? The specs? Cobbling together a bunch of spec components?

Amtran does most of the actual design work and manufacturing for the circuit boards. LG supplies most of the LCD panels. Foxconn and a bunch of others do the assembly. What's Vizio actually "designing" if all of the major components are outsourced?

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And what are they "designing"? The case? The specs? Cobbling together a bunch of spec components?

Amtran does most of the actual design work and manufacturing for the circuit boards. LG supplies most of the LCD panels. Foxconn and a bunch of others do the assembly. What's Vizio actually "designing" if all of the major components are outsourced?

Well, why dontcha call the engineering police and file a complaint.
Somebody outsourcing...GEE! That never happened before!
METHINKS YOU'RE JUST MAD because this is working so well,
plays with your sense of fairplay or something.
I SUGGEST YOU READ some books on capitalism and how
companies handle resources, like how not wasting time on something that already exists is a good thing, saves
the consumer money, and delivers a better product at a lower price.
LIKE when they used the DVDO scaler, of course iffen it was you you would completely design a new one from the ground up,
with maybe better specs by .000001 %.
VIZIO doesn't care if you disapprove of outsourcing, I GUESS,
and the thousands of other companies that follow the practice
probably don't either.
TELL ya what, ace, find a street corner, get a sign that says that every company has to build their stuff from scratch(which nobody
does, everybody outsources) and walk around on your street-corner until the guys with the butterfly nets grab you and give you a ride to the institute, give you some happy pills or something.