Quote Originally Posted by spacedeckman
Take the Pioneer off the list. You can keep the Onkyo on, but the Pioneer isn't a player unless you are just buying by specs. In the famous words of Monty Python..."Run Away, Run Away..."

Look at Yamaha, Denon, h/k...but for crying out loud, forget Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, or JVC even exist. Read these words, learn them, live them, be happy. You were looking to upgrade? You don't upgrade going to more crappier, you want more better.
Amen to this post, brothers.....listen to Space Man....STAY AWAY from Kenwood, Sony (unless its the pricey ES line), Pioneer and ESPECIALLY JVC----that is complete crap. I would only consider Denon and Onkyo, as I did when putting together a 5.1 system, for receivers....and ended up going with an Onkyo TX SR600....solidly built unit, LIGHT YEARS better than any JVC or Kenwood, thats for sure.