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    I really liked the sound of the HLS series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    Well actualy I need speakers now or the receiver and I have already decided what I want and it's eather the HLS610 or the Onkyo so I just need your help on which is the best to buy.
    NEED? Is there something wrong with your current speakers or receiver? Are they malfunctioning? If not, then you what you mean is that you WANT either new speakers or a receiver.... the advice given to you by noddinoff is the best.... be patient and listen to multiple speakers....

    But since you seem intent on tossing around some cash.... then buy the Onkyo now to satisfy your craving to 'upgrade'.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    Well actualy I need speakers now or the receiver and I have already decided what I want and it's eather the HLS610 or the Onkyo so I just need your help on which is the best to buy.
    You already have a receiver and speakers, so how can you possibly "need" more speakers or another receiver NOW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noddin0ff
    To Do:

    1) Save more money (~$250-350 for the next level)
    2) Visit some specialty audio stores
    3) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers
    4) Keep your receiver
    5) Wait a while and save money
    6) Revisit specialty audio stores
    7) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers again
    8) Keep your receiver
    9) Don't do anything until you upgrade your speakers.
    10) Come here and tell use what you listened to
    As much as I hate to take this back on track, seriously this is good advice. Please, please,please follow it.


    Slumpy that quote in your sig is brilliant...

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    I believe the answer was neither.

    And you like the HLS? Out of curiosity what else have you listened to? With $150, if you just saved a little more, you could get MUCH better quality speakers.

    Also, any chance you can shrink that giant picture in your sig?

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    Have you ever heard of delayed gratification?

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    I think you should do neither and follow the advice given to you.

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    I'm gonna regret this...no I already do.

    $150.00 will never, ever, never-ever, under any circumstances, beyond a shadow of a doubt never, qualitatively improve your sound. Take your money and put it in your pink piggie bank or under the mattress or in a shoe box,. Save your money until you have more and then can afford something that will be better than what you already have. In the the meantime work on the steps listed earlier.. Seriously.

    And take it easy on your mom. She didn't abandon you at birth.

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    Well the problem is if I dont get my receiver back then I have no receiver right now. I am just using a computer speakers amp to power up my HLS410. I opened the back of the computer speakers and took the wires inside that were powering the little speakers to hook them up to my JBL's. So eather way I need to get something so I wanted to know if I should get a new Onkyo receiver or get my receiver back and get the HLS610 and my mom did say she can buy her own receiver. If I got the HLS610 then I would get more bass when I get my receiver back. But I guess I need to know which is the best to do for now. I can say using the computer speakers amp doesnt sound good at all that's for sure.
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    Mr. Bamboo Forest,

    You dont neccesarily have to listen to everything you buy as long as you know what to look for.

    If you like, we can spend your money and buy a pair of speakers for you.

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    Well I would say you're better off getting your receiver back from your mom (who bought it, you or her?) and then saving to buy some better speakers. If you step past $200 a pair you can get some pretty damn good speakers for your money if you want to buy new. Paradigm, Axiom, AV123.com, HTD (know nothing about them but I keep hearing about them), Athena and a number of other companies have offerings around $200 or a little higher.

    On the other hand you should also consider buying used. You can get much better bang for your buck that way in most cases, and audiogon (or ebay even) are worth looking at if you are interested in buying used.

    Now, I do realize I just wasted my breath but in case you read all that and really consider your options, I think you'll find people here are trying to suggest much better ways to spend your money if you spend any at all.

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    Well actualy I can't right now get my receiver back since she needs it now. If I take it then she has no receiver to watch her movies. She said that if I buy the speakers instead then she will buy a receiver but it might take some time. But do you guys think I should get the speakers or the receiver??? I have to pick one. The Pioneer receiver is mine I bought it 4 years agao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    Well actualy I can't right now get my receiver back since she needs it now. If I take it then she has no receiver to watch her movies. She said that if I buy the speakers instead then she will buy a receiver but it might take some time. But do you guys think I should get the speakers or the receiver??? I have to pick one. The Pioneer receiver is mine I bought it 4 years agao.

    Seriously Vanilla Ice, you obviously just want to spend money... so buy whatever you want and stop asking for opinions...

    Your reasoning for why you "need" to upgrade is ridiculous...

    1) Your speakers sound fine but the grills look old... What??? How can that possibly be a serious reason to spend more money? Just take off the grills, if they look crappy...

    2) Your mommy has borrowed your receiver.... now that would make sense if you were just asking which receiver you should buy instead (and giving your mom your old one as a gift) but since you are thinking of buying new speakers instead, then clearly the fact that your mommy has your receiver is irrelevant.... What the heck are you gonna do with new speakers if your mommy still has your receiver?

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    ok I TOLD you guys that she will buy a new receiver if I decide to buy the speakers. She will get her own since if I have my own back then she wont have one. So to get to the point I NEED to know which is better to get the Onkyo receiver for me or the HLS610??? Stop being soo rude ok. I dont have much money so I can't get everything I need OK. I made my mind up on getting the HLS610 or the receiver and I just need help on deciding which is the best choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    I guess they just make young' uns different today.
    I don't know, I just turned 24 today. This seems like a "special" case. I looked at his forum and just from reading things here, it seems not everything was bolted together quite right when this model was on the factory floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    ok I TOLD you guys that she will buy a new receiver if I decide to buy the speakers. She will get her own since if I have my own back then she wont have one. So to get to the point I NEED to know which is better to get the Onkyo receiver for me or the HLS610??? Stop being soo rude ok. I dont have much money so I can't get everything I need OK. I made my mind up on getting the HLS610 or the receiver and I just need help on deciding which is the best choice.
    That logic and reasoning is so completely flawed. She'll give you your receiver back if you buy new speakers, but not now even though you already have speakers that need it?

    In that case you might as well buy some BETTER speakers used or save $50-70 more for better speakers new and get that because evidently she's going to give it back to you as long as you buy new speakers (that makes no sense, you need it now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
    ok I TOLD you guys that she will buy a new receiver if I decide to buy the speakers. She will get her own since if I have my own back then she wont have one. So to get to the point I NEED to know which is better to get the Onkyo receiver for me or the HLS610??? Stop being soo rude ok. I dont have much money so I can't get everything I need OK. I made my mind up on getting the HLS610 or the receiver and I just need help on deciding which is the best choice.

    The reason why people are being so "rude" to you is because you refuse to listen to any advice given to you and pretty much make a mockery of the purpose of this forum.....

    The best advice is that both of your options are bad and you'd be better off saving your money and listening to other speakers..... but even so, a number of people (myself included) have actually given you advice on whether to buy the speakers or the receiver...

    So all you need to do is count up the number of votes for the speakers and the number for the receiver and make your decision based on that (since you don't want to make the decision yourself)....

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    What's yours is yours, take your damn receiver back and save for some decent speakers. Don't short-change yourself!

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    Yeah!

    Quote Originally Posted by emorphien
    What's yours is yours, take your damn receiver back and save for some decent speakers. Don't short-change yourself!
    What do you owe her, anyway?

    It's only your mother who didn't abort you, grew you in her womb, nursed you through your sicknesses, paid for your upkeep, and raised you to what you are today (well, nobody's perfect).

    (and we wonder why some animals eat their young?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    What do you owe her, anyway?

    It's only your mother who didn't abort you, grew you in her womb, nursed you through your sicknesses, paid for your upkeep, and raised you to what you are today (well, nobody's perfect).

    (and we wonder why some animals eat their young?)
    There's treating your mom right, and then there's letting your mother walk all over you. Doesn't her TV have speakers? She doesn't need his receiver to watch movies then if it does.

    ScrewingVanillaice... do you have a job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emorphien
    There's treating your mom right, and then there's letting your mother walk all over you. Doesn't her TV have speakers? She doesn't need his receiver to watch movies then if it does.
    Which begs the question, who paid for this stuff in the first place?

    By the time I was 22, (in 1972) I was in and out of the Air Force, less than a year from moving out of home for my own place, and was working on my third receiver, all bought and paid for by yours truly. ...and I bought mom and dad their first color TV.

    Nowadays, one can pick up a starter HT receiver for < $150. That would have made a nice Xmas gift for mom, he could have gotten his receiver back, and be using his 410's. ...everybody wins.

    I guess they just make young' uns different today.
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    Ok you guys are getting off track I am just asking which is better to get out of the two if that was the only choices?? The receiver or the speakers. Please don't get off track since I am serious about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    What do you owe her, anyway?

    It's only your mother who didn't abort you, grew you in her womb, nursed you through your sicknesses, paid for your upkeep, and raised you to what you are today
    What a waste of time
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Listen to them. If you actually read what other people posted you would see that specs are somewhat meaningless. Where would you be buying these speakers? At a local store? If so go listen!

    Or you could just give up on JBL since they're not that good anyway.

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    Mr. Bamboo Forest,

    No one here has listened to every speakers out there and took notes, so we cant help you.

    Look for speakers with this:

    Power handling: 80-150 watts, 8 ohm, and from 40 to 60hz on the lowest notes.

    I still have faith in you, so listen to everyone who has posted.

    Emo: Are you catching up to me? Mmmmmmm... how quickly do you age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    Emo: Are you catching up to me? Mmmmmmm... how quickly do you age?
    Like a cat, faster at first but then gradually the aging process slows down. I fear you may already have too much of a head start.

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