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    System change

    After two heavy weeks here is the new system. All set up and playing beautifully.
    Speakers are "The Horn" from Ed Shillings "The Hornshoppe" www.thehornshoppe.com, and their partner is Shanlings MC30.
    Hope everyone is well.

    Peace

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    Nice,
    but what the? is this a secondary system? and no TT?

    still nice though!

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    Outstanding! Not enough coverage 'round these parts on people's secondary systems. I kinda suspected you wouldn't give up on the horns without a fight. So talk to us. You got some smooth sounds flowing over there friend? Sometimes simplicity is the key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Outstanding! Not enough coverage 'round theses parts on people's secondary systems. I kinda suspected you wouldn't give up on the horns without a fight. So talk to us. You got some smooth sounds flowing over there friend? Sometimes simplicity is the key.
    Long story short. Moved my office into my father in laws vacated room and changed the old Teac system for this new updated one. It shows you just how much great sound can be had from relative little outlay. 3 Tube Watts of class A. High sensitive (Fostex) single driver horns. Very very nice indeed. I think Hiro would like these Horns. And Ed Shilling is a fanatstic guy to deal with.
    And whilst we are at it here is the latest main system update.........
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    I'd love to hear that system. So the Shanling is a pretty good bang for the buck? I only seem to find good feedback about them.

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    After looking at your link I ask how is the bass response of those Horns? He sure uses a small driver. I didn't find any specs but I haven't gone every where yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    I'd love to hear that system. So the Shanling is a pretty good bang for the buck? I only seem to find good feedback about them.
    Come on over.

    Yes, I reckon the Shanling is superb value for money. I wanted something simple, tube and class A. This fits the bill. No ICs needed, just some decent speaker cable and sensitive speakers. It even has facility for i-Pod connection, another front end and pre outs. The build quality has to be seen to be believed. The remote would put many so called high end brands to shame. A thoroughly rersearched and executed product. As damn near perfect as you can get for the outlay.
    In tandem with the Horns it makes listening a real pleassure. Yes no earth shaking bass, but I don't need that anyway.
    I am amazed how loud 3 watts can go.

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    Guess I was dozing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
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    And whilst we are at it here is the latest main system update.........
    I missed your switch from the ART's. I guess I'm seeing the Peak Consult Princess Signature, eh?

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    3W? is that all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    3W? is that all?
    The first watt is the most important...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    The first watt is the most important...
    Sure, but the second you get dynamic peaks, you're immediately out of any head room. I'd hope they were very efficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    Sure, but the second you get dynamic peaks, you're immediately out of any head room. I'd hope they were very efficient
    I'm thinkin' about 94dB, so they're fairly efficient and remember this is an office system. I would imagine that ear-searing volume isn't in the playbook. Plus, knowing B's style I don't think that he's bumpin' any Chemical Brothers or bass-heavy tracks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
    3W? is that all?

    During normal listening, I use 0.2 watts per channel, to have decent sound. That with my 87 db/m power hungry thiels...

    3 watts of pure class A is enough for efficient speakers.


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    Bernd the office system looks amazing. I just read an excellent review on the Shangling. I find myself becoming more interested in a single driver speakers and with tubes I bet the sound is very intimate. Well done. Oh and the Princess' are also lovely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    knowing B's style I don't think that he's bumpin' any Chemical Brothers or bass-heavy tracks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    During normal listening, I use 0.2 watts per channel, to have decent sound. That with my 87 db/m power hungry thiels...

    3 watts of pure class A is enough for efficient speakers.


    Keep them spinning,
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    My 10w amp clips pretty fast. Granted, my speakers are very inefficient. I won't be taking such a route any time soon. Not that i'm not happy with my system, it's nice to know the amp won't start clipping the second you crank it a bit. 94dB, that would be around 10 more than mine. Should be all right then I guess

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    I believe I saw the Horns were 98dB.

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    Looks like a great system, B.

    When you start crossing wires, music stops. Looks like you got nothing to worry about this one.

    Happy Listenin,

    Peas

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    just read a nice write-up on the MC30. there are a handful of manufacturers doing the one-box solution, but that's the first one I've seen with tubes. It's also the first one that got a glowing review. Art Dudley in Stereophile seemed to really enjoy his time with it, so much so that he listed his top-ten must-have cds and praised the Shanling with each. That's a sweet set-up, Bernd!

    My secondary system is mostly vintage stuff. I'm still looking for the right speakers, although the Acoustic Energy Aegis Ones do well enough. They're just not vintage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
    After two heavy weeks here is the new system.
    Super looking and most assuredly super sounding system Bernd. Naturally, I'm biased towards the natural coherency found with full range driver based systems.

    rw

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    Thank you...

    ...for the positive comments.
    It seems that the little fostex driver needs some break in time. I spent the evening in the Office and just noticed that the sound opened up a great deal.They have about 25 hours on them now. Vocals and accoustic recordings are superb and it makes a decent enough stab at the Bass. It is pretty amazing how much clear, loud and detailed music this little driver can produce. A very unforced natural presentation.
    And that is exactely what I wanted for this room. Somehow this set up doesn't demand ones attention when listening as much as the main system does. Here I can work without being drawn away.
    A little close up of the Shanling.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    I missed your switch from the ART's. I guess I'm seeing the Peak Consult Princess Signature, eh?
    Hi Bill,

    Long hibernation in Canada? Changed about 14 months ago due to cicumstances beyond my control. But the Peak Consults are a different class.
    Hope all is well your end.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
    ...for the positive comments.
    It seems that the little fostex driver needs some break in time. I spent the evening in the Office and just noticed that the sound opened up a great deal.They have about 25 hours on them now. Vocals and accoustic recordings are superb and it makes a decent enough stab at the Bass. It is pretty amazing how much clear, loud and detailed music this little driver can produce. A very unforced natural presentation.
    And that is exactely what I wanted for this room. Somehow this set up doesn't demand ones attention when listening as much as the main system does. Here I can work without being drawn away.
    A little close up of the Shanling.....

    It sure is a nice amp...

    nice, compact, well built and good sounding...

    What else could one want

    oh, and how are the manley's doing in the main system?

    Keep them spinning,
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    *Denon DL-304
    *Graham slee elevator EXP & revelation
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    Marantz CD5001 OSE
    MIT AVt 2 IC's
    Sonic link Black earth IC's
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    I'm a happy 20 year old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
    After two heavy weeks here is the new system. All set up and playing beautifully.
    Speakers are "The Horn" from Ed Shillings "The Hornshoppe" www.thehornshoppe.com, and their partner is Shanlings MC30.
    Hope everyone is well.

    Peace
    Bernd, a very handsome set up, and no doubt a delightful accompaniment to your office work -- would I could have a nice system in my office cubical.

    For certain those Shanling tube components are amongst the most beautiful to the eye that are made today.

    I'm underpriviledged in that I have never heard a good, full-range, SET-driven system. I would like to in order to understand what the fuss is about. I have designed a number of speaker systems, (though as yet I've built only one). Here is an example: note the fairly complex, 4th order crossover -- and this is only a two-way design. A part from any negative affect on the music, these complex designs become expensive, especially when implemented with top-quality parts. Parts alone for these speakers would be 2-3 times the cost of The Horn.

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    I didn't realize the MC30 was a CD and tuner as well. I wonder why Shanling chose to use a Music Hall CD opposed to one of their own.

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