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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
    What you are saying may be true for the recordings you make.
    The way I record is pretty standard practice for the industry itself. I have my ways of doing things that might be different in some areas. So to try and isolate this down to me is fruitless and much like looking through a microscope.




    In the 30+ years I have been involved with audio both on the recording end and on the listening end the best (most natural sounding) recordings are the ones that have the least amount of processing.
    So let me get this straight, you are a recording engineer? I think every engineer strives for the LEAST amount of processing when doing is mix



    Those same recordings were all recorded with minimal miking.
    Yes they may use minimal miking, but how did the instruments get a left/right perspect without panning? You have never explained that. Two mikes didn't give a left/right perspective until it is panned there.


    As I mentioned in previous posts direct to disc LP's and the few direct to 2 track CD's that are in my collection are the recordings that exhibit true imaging.
    There is no such thing as "true" imaging. Did any of these recording pass through a mixing board? How was this recording done, can you fully explain.



    Studio recordings have plenty of left to right panning but no imaging; as in depth.
    You are totally generalizing here, as you have not heard every studio recording ever made. These kinds of generalization are not helpful in a intelligent discussion of audio.



    When a source has been artifically panned to a specific horizontal position in a mix it is not all that difficult to hear it in the results.
    Can you support this perspective with some evidence, testing etc. Because some of your most renoun recordings have used panning via a mixing board. Panning is not artificial, it is necessary in most conditions. I think you need a new audio vocabulary.


    Another good example of this is Way Out West which has none of the panning and processing.
    Can you tell us how it was recorded, and how the instruments just magically get their left/right perspective?

    The Jacintha CD I mentioned previously has none of the panning and processing that degrades fidelity.
    Can you provide me with any testing results that support you claim that panning degrades the signal. I know of none submitted to AES for peer review. Once again, how do the instruments acheive a left/right perspective in the recording? Can you explain


    Maybe we need more old time musicians who can do their thing without multiple overdubs and studio help. I may have opened up a new can of worms with my comment about musicians who need overdubbing and studio "magic" to make music.
    Or perhaps we can ask the old school hobbiest to move up with the times.
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