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    Thumbs up Finally it starts! Snatched a refurb Klipsch center channel.

    After months of reading reviews, advertisements, marketing blather, and forum posts by the hundreds, I'm finally beginning the actual purchasing stage of gathering the equipment for my new Home Theater. Though I cringe at calling it that after seeing the drop-dead gorgeous examples of Home Theaters that some of you folks have in your homes!

    I actually began the process about a week and a half ago, but my Onkyo receiver arrived with a good-sized hole in the box, so I sent it back to Amazon. I really felt I needed the extra time anyway, so I'll just use today as my official starting point.

    Let me start out by explaining where I am beginning my journey. I currently have only two smallish front speakers and a subwoofer--all by Klipsch--and a 27" JVC CRT television. So, my quest is to find compatible speakers for my existing Klipsch speakers to complete a 5.1 (or at bare minimum a 3.1) setup, buy a widescreen HDTV, blu-ray player, tv stand, and AV-Receiver.

    Also, there are a couple of wrinkles. Ideally I'd like to find a blu-ray player that also plays SACD discs, but that is going slowly now. The current-generation PS3 doesn't play them, and neither apparently does my first-choice stand-alone blu-ray player, the Panasonic DMP-BD35K.

    Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself. During my intel-gathering, since my speakers were Klipsch, I found myself seeking information from their tech-support folks at the factory. And, while they didn't point me toward Klipsch on Ebay, I discovered that earlier today. Among the items there was a refurbished center channel speaker that had such similar stats that I believe it was the replacement for the center channel that Klipsch had earlier recommended for me. (Ebay=RC-35; Klipsch recommended=RC-62).

    At any rate, I snatched the RC-35 from someone for $255 + 10 shipping. So I now have at least a 3.1 speaker system, heh.
    Klipsch RB-35 fronts
    Klipsch RB-5 rears
    Klipsch RC-62 center
    Klipsch LF-10 sub
    Onkyo TX-SR606 AVR
    Panasonic TH-50PZ800U TV
    Panasonic DMP-BD35P BD Player


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    Wits, You are making a good start while obviously staying within a reasonable budget. Unfortunately you didn't say what model of Onkyo you ordered.

    Many here are not real fond of the Klipsch sound. However, they are very dynamic which few other speakers can match without a huge expensive amp. I think they are just fine, especially if you like the sound of the RB-5's. One thing great is they are very, very efficient (also known as sensitivity). The RB-5 and RC-35 both have a sensitivity of 96dB's. This means they will produce 96 decibels (very loud) with one watt at a distance of one meter. This is the standard method. An increase of 3 decibels requires twice the power. A 3 decibel increase is only a slightly audible increase in sound volume. The average bookshelf speaker is rated at about 87-88 dB's. This means that the average bookshelf speaker will take approx. 8 times the power to play at the same volume as those Klipsch! Your Klipsch with a receiver with 100 watts per channel will be equivelent to an average bookshelf speaker matched with a 13 watt per channel receiver! The point here is that you will have no problem ever running out of power to reproduce the very loudest music or movie soundtracks.

    Don't play down those RB-5's. They are a very decent speaker. Don't make the mistake of thinking you need a big tower. The RB-5's are down to 48Hz at -3dB's. You should be crossing over your RB-5's and the RC-35's to the LF-10 sub at 80Hz or no lower than 70Hz. That means the RB-5 and RC-35 have all the low bass you need because the sub takes over the bass from there on down. In your speaker setup of the receiver you should designate all three of the front Klipsch as "small" and not large. This will send all the bass below 80Hz plus the LFE bass to the subwoofer where it belongs.

    The factory was mentioning the RC-62 because it is the current center channel model but not a perfect match but probably OK. Look at the information below on each speaker and you will find that the original match for the RB-5 is the RC-3 center and the RS-3 surround. That means they all have the same exact tweeter, compare the exact description of the tweeter including model number. Your newer RC-35 is an exact match for the RB-35 bookshelf and the RS-35 surround, all discontinued models, which you would have to buy used. If you want a perfect match then it would be wise to look for the more recent used RB-35 and RS-35.

    The question is, are the front three you now have a good match? Looks they they might be fine as the tweeters in the RB-5 and RC-35 are probably quite similar. The way to tell is to see if they have the exact or very close voicing/timbre. You can test for yourself by playing some white or pink noise. If you don't have a test CD you can substitute by playing either the speaker setup test tone from your receiver or by using interstation FM noise. That is the hiss noise that is present when you are between channels or when your FM antenna in not connected and you just get hiss.

    Using one of these listen to the RB-5 and RC-35 to see if the character of the noise is a perfect match or quite close. Both of the RB-5's should be identical. Having this close or perfect match gives you the smooth pan across the front due to the same voicing from all three speakers. The same applies to the surround speakers for the best 5 seaker surround sound.

    From the specs it looks like that LF-10 should be a fine performing sub. The sub can be from any brand or different series from the same brand.

    Hope this helps.

    RR6

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/disc...ails/rb-5.aspx

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rc-35.aspx

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/disc...ils/rb-35.aspx

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rs-35.aspx

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/disc...ils/lf-10.aspx

    http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rc-62.aspx

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    Hey congrats on the new toys. Building a system is always a lot of fun, each step brings something new and brings you that much closer to audio heaven. Keep us up to date on your progress.
    And yeah, what receiver was it?

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    Congats Wits. Let me straighten out one wrinkle for ya. The current gen PS3 DOES play SACD's just fine. I'm listening to Genesis: "Wind & Wuthering" on SACD right now in Multi-channel and it sounds darn good!

    Keep an eye out for stand-alone Blu-ray player prices to drop even more after Thanksgiving.

    Have fun! Spend money!

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    Best Buy has their Insignia brand Blu-Ray player for $169 presently.

    If you dont mind waiting about 6-9 months, Oppo Digital will be coming out with a Blu-Ray player that is supposed to play SACD as well but it may cost several hundred. Oppo does make some very nice Universal DVD, SACD players for under $200 and they give great DVD playback and good SACD playback. Standard CD is average. www.oppodigital.com

    The 980 is better for audio and the 981 is better for video. The more expensive 983 is equally good for both.
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    Hey guys, thanks for the responses!

    The receiver I originally ordered (and sent back) was the Onkyo TX-SR606. I still haven't completely decided on its replacement. I guess my primary area of confusion is what things in a receiver are most important...things that I really don't want to leave off even if it means stepping up to an $800 or so model. I've seen mentioned things such as Burr-Brown, toroidal transformers, and a whole truckload of acronyms! I am plodding along, going to Wikipedia and looking things up trying to make sense of things, but it's tough.

    One thing in particular really has me stumped: I know that I am looking for a receiver that has HDMI inputs, and preferably the more the better. I also know that blu-ray players do something called 'upconvert' or 'transcode' to DVD's to make their picture quality better. But I've heard that a receiver also does upconverting, and has something else called pass through. If I put in a DVD in a Blu-ray player, which is going to transode my movie? And is there a way to tell which unit (the receiver or the BD player) will do a better job of transcoding? If so, can I select which one will do it?

    By the way, the Blu-ray player I've pretty much settled on is either a Panasonic DMP-BD35 or a Sony PS-3.

    Rich-N-Texas, are you certain your PS3 is playing SACD's in SACD format rather than in DVD? I've read that the newer 80GB PS3's don't support SACD.

    I'm sorry to be a pain; thanks in advance for any replies!

    P.S. I almost scored a set of Klipsch RB-81's on AudiogoN, they were unused and right at half-msrp but I no longer see the ad so I guess someone else got them. Kinda puzzling how some of the ads say sold and stay up though...I keep wondering if I missed seeing it this time.

    P.P.S. Another thing I'm debating on is whether to use a pair of surround speakers in the back and keep my RB-5's in the front or use a pair of regular speakers in a more 'traditional' setup.

    P.P.P.S. RR6, THANK YOU for such a wonderful post explaining so much. I'm very sorry I forgot until the end to properly thank you.
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    Klipsch LF-10 sub
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    Stick with the Onkyo 606. Its a very good receiver. It has plenty of power and features. There is no point in going for the 706, only the 806 or 876 would be somewhat of an improvement with a lot more power a maybe a few more features. Also, dont concern yourself with torroidal power transformers. You wont notice a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wits
    One thing in particular really has me stumped: I know that I am looking for a receiver that has HDMI inputs, and preferably the more the better. I also know that blu-ray players do something called 'upconvert' or 'transcode' to DVD's to make their picture quality better. But I've heard that a receiver also does upconverting, and has something else called pass through. If I put in a DVD in a Blu-ray player, which is going to transode my movie? And is there a way to tell which unit (the receiver or the BD player) will do a better job of transcoding? If so, can I select which one will do it?
    Yeah...DVD/BluRay players and Receivers might have video processing in them - this is what does the "upscaling". Which one does a better job, well that depends. The component with the best upscaling chip will do the best job. And no, you don't want to apply the processing more than once. I've helped a lot of people set up their systems, and in my experience, the difference in most recievers in the $1200 and less price range is minimal, and about on par with DVD players in the $150-$300 price range. The differences aren't big, but the odd artifact can appear, and there are some exceptions. It would be pretty hard to recommend a model to based on the upscaling feature alone I think. Most do a fairly decent job these days, where even 2 short years ago, it was inconsistent, or not even available. As you spend more money, the processing gets better, to a point.

    Most people try applying the processing each component 1 at a time to see which they feel is the better performer, then use that.

    Oh, and Passthrough is just as it sounds...it passes the signal through without upscaling the picture.
    P.P.S. Another thing I'm debating on is whether to use a pair of surround speakers in the back and keep my RB-5's in the front or use a pair of regular speakers in a more 'traditional' setup.
    What do you mean "surround speakers"? Ideally you want the same speakers as your front mains, or smaller versions of them, say from the same product line. So whatever RB-series speaker is available. Of course budgets and real world factors can play a limiting role in this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wits

    Rich-N-Texas, are you certain your PS3 is playing SACD's in SACD format rather than in DVD? I've read that the newer 80GB PS3's don't support SACD.
    I think the 80g MGS4 version that Rich has was the last "fully loaded" PS3 to support some PS2 BC & has SACD support. You'd have to hunt one down or get a used 20 or 60g. There are several other versions floating around but they don't support SACD.

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    L.J., as per usual is correct. The newest 80 gig version apparently does not have SACD support, but the one I purchased back in the summer does have support for it as well as backward compatibilty for PS1 & 2 games. Don't ask me why Sony does that; my bundle was $100. more than the current offering, so even though I have very few SACD titles, the ones I do have sound quite phenominal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    What do you mean "surround speakers"? Ideally you want the same speakers as your front mains, or smaller versions of them, say from the same product line. So whatever RB-series speaker is available. Of course budgets and real world factors can play a limiting role in this...
    Surround speakers are shaped differently than conventional speakers, for one thing. Instead of having one 'face' of components, i.e., one woofer and one tweeter facing one direction, surrounds have one woofer and one tweeter facin. RR6 put a link to one of them in his post in this thread--it's the one that ends in rs-35.aspx.

    I didn't know that ideally I should strive for two pairs of the same speakers for a 5.1 setup. Though in retrospect it makes sense that you'd want to have equal speakers so as not to have the fronts overpowering the rears, for example.
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    You want to use speakers from the same product line in a HT set up to get the best continuity of sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    Stick with the Onkyo 606. Its a very good receiver. It has plenty of power and features. There is no point in going for the 706, only the 806 or 876 would be somewhat of an improvement with a lot more power a maybe a few more features. Also, dont concern yourself with torroidal power transformers. You wont notice a difference.
    Do you mean that because I don't have speakers good enough to image the differences of the receivers that I won't be able to notice the differences between, say the Onkyo 606 and the Onkyo 806 with the Toroidal transformers? Or is there another reason? I'm not trying to be difficult, understand, it's just now I'm unfortunately more confused than ever when someone says that I should avoid a higher-end model because I won't be able to tell it apart.

    As usual, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    You want to use speakers from the same product line in a HT set up to get the best continuity of sound.
    I'm pretty sure the Klipsch Reference Surround and the Reference Bookshelf are considered to be in the same product line, as Klipsch bundles the two in their HT packages.
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    The 706 is only 10wpc more than the 606- 90 vs 100wpc. They probably have the same exact power transformer but are just rated differently. Manufacturers like to play with spec's and ratings of similar models. The 806 is 130wpc.

    As far as toroidal vs non toroidal goes. You wont notice any difference in sound at this price point. Toroidal power transformers can make a difference when we are talking about higher end equipment. They are more efficient, lighter in weight, create less noise (they have less electromagnetic leakage) and interference and run cooler. They are also smaller and take up less space.

    Laminated power transformers have been used for years and they work well.
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    Here's a link comparing some of the onkyo receivers http://www.faqware.com/Receivers/Onk...ison_2008.html

    And here's an interesting article on power ratings

    http://www.audioholics.com/education...-power-ratings
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    Excellent!! Thanks blackraven I'm reading them now. While Google is a great search engine it can bog you down with too much info, so it's nice when someone like yourself helps filter it down a bit.

    Edit: I guess somewhere I gave the impression I was concerned about more power as my primary motivation for upgrading from 606. This is not the case at all. The techs at Klipsch tell me that I need to make sure I can deliver 100 watts to drive their speakers, and from what I've heard the 606 can do that, despite that it is rated at 90.

    My reasons for potentially wanting an upgrade from the Onkyo 606 (and that includes using a different brand as well) is to ensure I don't overlook a feature that I'll really miss down the road.
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    Klipsch LF-10 sub
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    Hi Wits

    I don't get around to posting around here much but I came across yours and thought I would put in my 2 cents since I have a similar system Onkyo/Klipsch for HT,The receiver you sent back is 7.1 so you can run both surround and surround back speakers.I use KG3.5s for those myself, RF 82s for fronts and a KV 2 for the center.Mine is not not matched but sounds great just the same.My receiver is a couple years old(TX-SR604) but basicly the same as the 606 which has 4 HDMI inputs vs only 2 on mine.I believe you mentioned get a new tv as well so I thought I would mention that some of the newer ones have 2 or more HDMI inputs themselves.Personally I prefer to run the HDMI staight to my plasma from either my sat. box or DVD and use optical or coax to the receiver,this way you can watch with or without using your surround system.Works for me since the wife and I work and sleep different hours.Putting together any system can be fun(and addicting)so enjoy

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    Thanks, Scott! That's an excellent idea as I'm sure there will be times when I will not want to fire up the stereo just to watch some tv.

    I actually have some news that I was going to post anyway. I just ordered another 606 so hopefully it will arrive safely toward the end of next week.

    I've got Transformers on Blu-ray coming as well; probably not the best disc to show off my new tv with, but the price was right at $10!
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    Well I couldn't wait any longer. I was busy throughout the night!

    It didn't appear that the price would get any better, so I jumped on Amazon.com and ordered the Panasonic TH50PZ800U and the Panasonic DMP-BD35 Blu-ray player. Also a few movies while I was at it.

    From Target.com I picked up a nice, modern-looking stand which should hold everything nicely. Landed 15% off and free shipping from there.

    My center channel is supposed to be delivered today. J&R should be processing the order for the receiver today and getting a tracking number to me so hopefully I'll know when to expect that later today.

    All I need now is a pair of speakers for the rear and I'll be set! (and broke!)
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    Target was going to take too long to deliver the stand, so I found a stand at Worst Buy for a similar price that also included free shipping. Ordered it and arranged for it to be delivered the ninth. The day after I ordered it, I noticed that it had gone down in price by nearly $50, so I called them and got a price adjustment, making the new one nearly as cheap as the one from Target. Then last night (early this AM) I noticed that the TV I ordered from Amazon is now $100 cheaper, so I gave them a call and got them to adjust the price down to match the new lower price, making the final price for my Panny TH50PZ800U $1779.98 with free white glove delivery service!

    I just hope this isn't a weekly occurrence or something, where the TV's price goes down steadily between now and Christmas 'cause Amazon doesn't offer a written price matching policy. This one time since I have yet to take delivery will probably be the last time they will make an adjustment. Of course, for those of you who have the patience and are still waiting, I'm coming off as pretty selfish right now.
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    I don't think you can get better side surrounds for your system than the Klipsch RS. Unless you plan to do a lot of SACD where you may want direct radiators. The RS are intended for side surround use and provide a more difuse, less direct sound. I'm not familiar with your receiver, but I have the Sony STR-DA5300ES which is their flagship 7.1 receiver. I use my RS3s as side surrounds and direct radiating 3-way speakers for my rears. This provide the best sound no matter what format I choose.

    The Onkyo is a good receiver, but with the Klipsch' you'll find either 90W or 100W is more than enough. The Klipsch' are very efficient. You may want to purchase a subwoofer. I think the RB5s will sound a little lean for movies and Rock music.

    I have a second system which is all Klipsch. I use vintage Kg4s for mains, KV3 for the center, RS3s for surrounds. The Kg4s put out good bass, but I still supplement the low-end with a custom-made ACI Saturn sub which is has 2 12" woofers is "push-pull" configuration. I also have an extra little Klipsch SW8 sub I use for mid-bass just for giggles. In the past I've powered the Klipsch' with differently powered receivers from an old Kenwood 4070 40W - to a Sony 140W. They sound good good on all. Klipsch has a good Forum as well.

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    Thanks, bfalls, I'll keep an eye out for some RS speakers. I have a subwoofer already--in fact, it's one of the three pieces that I started with--a Klipsch LF-10 that I bought at the same time as the two RB-5's.

    I guess what I keep thinking is that the RB-5 are so small that they might be better suited as rear channel speakers if I could find, say, a pair of RB-81 or RB-61 and use those in the front. I'm just concerned that they will be outclassed by a good pair of surrounds like the RS-52 or RS-42.

    Also, do you think I should bi-wire the RB-5s if I keep them as fronts? Thanks again!
    Klipsch RB-35 fronts
    Klipsch RB-5 rears
    Klipsch RC-62 center
    Klipsch LF-10 sub
    Onkyo TX-SR606 AVR
    Panasonic TH-50PZ800U TV
    Panasonic DMP-BD35P BD Player


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    After talking with Klipsch some more (Robert in tech support has been extremely helpful and patient, and gone well beyond the extra mile), I've decided not to bi-amp or bi-wire any of my speakers, at least not at the beginning.

    My stand arrived Monday, TV arrived Tuesday. Got the stand built and the TV mounted on it Tuesday.

    Had a bit of a setback when I opened the package containing the center channel. The box appeared to be in pristine condition, so I just tucked it away without opening when it originally arrived.
    Well, yesterday when I pulled out the speaker there was a pretty big hole in it. Something completely punched through the plastic grill, broke it into pieces and ended up with some of them rattling around inside the speaker!

    What is it with me getting stuff that has holes in it? It's really almost funny in a pathetic way--first the Onkyo AVR and now this.

    Anyway, it's not a major deal since Klipsch has another one and they are picking up the old one and sending the new one out to me, plus I'm not ready to hook everything up because I still need to buy speaker cable and terminations. Also, my HDMI cables from Monoprice.com haven't arrived yet, though they should be here today.
    Klipsch RB-35 fronts
    Klipsch RB-5 rears
    Klipsch RC-62 center
    Klipsch LF-10 sub
    Onkyo TX-SR606 AVR
    Panasonic TH-50PZ800U TV
    Panasonic DMP-BD35P BD Player


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    Oh I am soo good at this!!

    It's really too bad I don't have an endless supply of money...those poor bastages on Ebay just don't stand a chance if there's something I want! There was one pair of speakers in the Klipsch store that would work nicely with the rest of my gear, so I swooped in and made them mine!

    I snagged a set of Klipsch RB-35's just now. They are a couple of steps or so higher than my current RB-5's, so I'll move the RB-5s to the rears and use the RB-35's as the fronts.

    I'm so excited to get everything here and working! This will be the first time in my life that I will have a HDTV or a 5.1 surround sound system.
    Klipsch RB-35 fronts
    Klipsch RB-5 rears
    Klipsch RC-62 center
    Klipsch LF-10 sub
    Onkyo TX-SR606 AVR
    Panasonic TH-50PZ800U TV
    Panasonic DMP-BD35P BD Player


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