Okay some has to ask it. More Influential Star Wars or Star Trek?

[topspeed]

You're making these too easy Worster!

From a cultural significance standpoint, Star Trek has to be the choice. Many Trek episodes dealt with real world issues such as racism, poverty, communism, interracial unions, sex, the list goes on and on.

Star Wars gave us

[shokhead]

If ST had done a big screen movie of the borg,it would have been way better then any SW flick,easy. Still,ST because it was the first modern scifi. Mid late 50's was about it for scifi until ST got it going again even bigger then ever.

[Smokey]

IMO, Star Trek is more influential since it got an early start on TV and played on TV in every homes in the world. You can go to Africa, Asia or Iceland, and everybody knows who Spock is. Same thing can not be said about Star Wars

[eisforelectronic]

I think Star Wars did more to define what I expected from a Sci-fi movie. I always found myself wishing for more fighting while watching Star Trek. Apparently, not all ST films can be "Wrath of Khan". As far as being culturally significant, I might have to say ST. Actually Star Trek is more of a culture in itself I think.

[eqm]

I guess since no one else will be the apologist, allow me to play "l'advocate de diablo" or something like that.

while I think that without "trekkies" and "trekkers", there would be no star wars dorks (watch tv for about 30 seconds...they'll be on...), nobody in this arena would be talking about "surround sound" or how great the sound in the different theater setups would be. am i wrong here? when you got that first surround setup with the HI-FI vcr, did you put in the Star-Trek movies? maybe a few of you, but my gut tells me that more than a few of you were busting out that THX vhs version of...dum da dum....Star Wars.

What movie franchise has been parodied more? Remember Hardware Wars? Spaceballs? Remember the Star Trek movie that borrowed the Cantina scene?

I will, of course grant that ST has more of a social concience in its writing...SW was meant for light-hearted entertainment. So, in the immortal words of Butthead, "If I wanted to read, I'd go to school." "Yeah, learning sucks." (but now that I mention it, B&B did parody ST).

anyway...discuss amongst yaselves.

[topspeed]

If ST had done a big screen movie of the borg,it would have been way better then any SW flick,easy. Still,ST because it was the first modern scifi. Mid late 50's was about it for scifi until ST got it going again even bigger then ever.

Here ya go! One of the best of the next gen, imo.

[eisforelectronic]

Here ya go! One of the best of the next gen, imo.

First Contact started out great...until the Borg did their time travel thing and it turned into Star Trek again.

[kexodusc]

First Contact started out great...until the Borg did their time travel thing and it turned into Star Trek again.

I agree, this was the biggest letdown of all Star Trek movies, and if wasn't for your interest in your favorite ol' TNG characters this movie would be complete crap instead of mostly crap. God...you go 400 shows with nothing about time travel, then all of a sudden we're back in time on boring old planet earth instead of fightin' evil Borgs...the Voyager mini-series were better than this...that has ALWAYS been my beef with Star Trek, making season finales and premiers that kicked the crap out of the movies.

Wrath of Khan being the exception...And Nemesis was kind of cool, except it could have been made into a trilogy and felt a bit too rushed...