Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
I don't appreciate your accusations of me lying. So much for civil, eh? I really don't see how you got to be a moderator. I've thrown a few digs in, myself, but they were meant to keep things light. Accusing me of lying when I was making one of my main points (and I was not lying) was just plain rude, and there was nothing light about it. Scumbag.
When you don't tell the truth, that is called what? How I became moderator is not relevant to the discussion at hand. In making one of your points, you didn't tell the truth, so what is a person who doesn't tell the truth? Spreading misinformation (i.e analog has more information than digital) is also rude, and if you thrown in a few digs yourself, then you deserved to have them thrown back! Scumbag, wow! More compliments like that and we'll be best friends

You keep claiming you're throwing facts around, when I'm trying to stress the differentiations when I'm talking personal opinion and personal experiences, and you're throwing around your personal experiences like they're facts. I don't care how important you are, how much experience you have, and how many times you've done something, your opinion never becomes fact.
Here is a fact. If I record digitally and transfer it to analog vinyl, it will have no more information than digital master. That is a fact, and happens to be my opinion.

Fact. Vinyl is not a tranparent playback source. Its euphonic to some, but not superior to digital at all. That fact just happens to be my opinion.

Fact. Not ALL vinyl will sound better than digital even on a subjective level. It highly depends on the quality of the mastering, and which domain it was done in. This fact happens to be my opinion.

So based on your thought process, your doctors opinion on your health is irrelevant. Its just an opinion even though his knowledge and experience supports that opinion.

This argument started because you made the statement: "Actually you cannot say the LP's clarity and range of sound will never be touched by CD on certain recordings." (Notice: CD, not SACD.) It is an opinion, and I stated mine to the contrary.
What I stated is a fact. You cannot assume that an LP will ALWAYS sound better than a 16/44.1khz CD. There is nothing mechanically better on vinyl than on CD. To those who PREFER vinyl, it sounds better to THEM than CD. To those who have been exposed to good digital (i.e high quality digital converters in a studio environment), CD done well is just as satisfying to the ear as vinyl would be to analog lovers.

I'll get back to you later about some of your other points -- there's obviously at least one or two misunderstandings going on. The fact that I could hear the difference between 24/96 recorded vinyl and 16/44.1 recorded vinyl on the admittedly inferior (to dCS and EMM Labs) Masterlink should only prove even more that the difference is there. I wasn't talking about the different masters of I, Robot in which one could also hear the difference -- I probably shouldn't even have mentioned those, as it confused you (or you used them to act confused).
Can you tell me the name of the source that was recorded in 24/96 and 16/44.1khz and pressed to vinyl. I have never heard of a 24/96khz digital project transferred directly to vinyl, however I have heard 16/44.1khz digital project that was eventually transferred to vinyl. It had different EQ than the CD(as it should) and that makes any comparison apples to oranges. As a matter of fact the times that I have heard sources were the EQ was optimized for vinyl, and that master was used for CD as well, the results were disasterous for the CD. And visa versa. I know for a fact that nobody in my industry records in digital to be released exclusively on a vinyl source. That is why we have analog tape. So you are now saying to me that you have personally recorded 24/96khz and 16/44.1khz digital and personally cut the vinyl yourself? If not, then you do not know what path the sources passed through before you heard it. It may have been recorded digitally, but mix and mastered in analog which would render it a analog source and not a digital source at all. This practice you mention is so unusual, that I would have to see proof that it really happened