Dr.Toole and JBL

[RobotCzar]

Dr. Toole did not write the manual or make the claim stated. So this is a non-issue.

He is not in charge of Harman and one assumes that reality and precision would take a back seat to hype if Harman thought it was in their interest to say that cables are "important". We who go by the evidence have repeatedly stated that all the opinions of pundits, all the statements in brochures and manuals, all the "recommendations" of audio companies and goofy magazines, don't count as much as a simple test. Can I make that any clearer? We leave it to pctower to make lawyer arguments about truth (which is a very humorous concept).

Cable fans can't demonstrate that they really hear differences, so they read manuals (probably written my junior marketeers) to support for their ideas. Go for it, but it ain't any kind of evidence. You deserve what you get if you treat manual as some source of infallible information.

[pctower]

Dr. Toole did not write the manual or make the claim stated. So this is a non-issue.

He is not in charge of Harman and one assumes that reality and precision would take a back seat to hype if Harman thought it was in their interest to say that cables are "important". We who go by the evidence have repeatedly stated that all the opinions of pundits, all the statements in brochures and manuals, all the "recommendations" of audio companies and goofy magazines, don't count as much as a simple test. Can I make that any clearer? We leave it to pctower to make lawyer arguments about truth (which is a very humorous concept).

Cable fans can't demonstrate that they really hear differences, so they read manuals (probably written my junior marketeers) to support for their ideas. Go for it, but it ain't any kind of evidence. You deserve what you get if you treat manual as some source of infallible information.

Your first sentence makes an absolute claim. What is your basis for that claim? Do you also claim he did not approve it before it went out? If so, what is your basis for that claim?

The rest of your post is extraneous to the subject, which is what does the public record suggest Dr. Toole's opinion on cables might be. I never even remotely suggested that either the interview or the manual is proof of anything. Go find someone else who wants to argue with you about anything beyond your first sentence.

[mtrycraft]

Your first sentence makes an absolute claim. What is your basis for that claim? Do you also claim he did not approve it before it went out? If so, what is your basis for that claim?.

Since when does the VP of research write speaker manuals or signs off on them? Harman ain't a mom and pop operation. But, hey, kill two birds, send an email and ask, this and about the cables he tested.