Anti-Cables on their way/have arrived

[JohnMichael]

You are driving my hopes higher and higher!!! Now I'm afraid I will be disappointed.

I am not sure what you are using for cables now but my comments are based on my most recent experience with the Audioquest Slates. My speakers can be bi-wired so I am running a pair to the low frequency drivers and a pair to the high frequency drivers. I am not using single wire and jumpers. I could have purchased his jumpers for less than another pair of cables but I wanted to bi-wire.

[JohnMichael]

While enjoying the Anti's I began to be displeased with the DNM Resons I was using from the SA8001 to the Krell. Imaging was good but almost to good. More 2d cutout images. I replaced them with the AlphaCore Micropurls and all is well again. I am still using the AlphaCore TQ2 from phono preamp to the Krell. The AntiCables sure let you know what the rest of the system is up to and where problems may be.

[frenchmon]

While enjoying the Anti's I began to be displeased with the DNM Resons I was using from the SA8001 to the Krell. Imaging was good but almost to good. More 2d cutout images. I replaced them with the AlphaCore Micropurls and all is well again. I am still using the AlphaCore TQ2 from phono preamp to the Krell. The AntiCables sure let you know what the rest of the system is up to and where problems may be.

Any thought about an all Anti Cable system? Its surely affordable.

[JohnMichael]

Any thought about an all Anti Cable system? Its surely affordable.

I will be trying his IC's soon.

[JohnMichael]

Well last night I finally twisted the AntiCables. I noticed an improvement in detail and high frequency extension. I would almost say the sound was a little sweeter but I do not hear any colorations with the cables. I think I may be hearing more of the true nature of the Krell.

The cables have been a lot of fun to experiment with and listen through. I can see the advantages of having Paul create a bi-amp pair shotgunned and twisted. While the two spades stacked on top of one another fit the Krell's speaker binding posts I think a single spade with the two wires soldered to it would be easier. I am also thinking Paul's twisting might be a little more consistent than mine. Even with my twisting it is easy to hear the benefits of twisting the cables.

All this for less than I will be spending tonight to see Lewis Black and a nice dinner. This hobby is a lot of fun.

[JohnMichael]

I tried the AntiCables twisted and bi-wired with the Monitor Audio RS6's and I have to say what an improvement. Much of the improvement heard with the OML1's happened for the RS6's. Any sonic confusion with the bass driver with the mid and high frequency driver is gone. The speaker sounds much more integrated than before. What I thought were cabinet colorations/vibrations now seem to be problems from the Audioquest Slate bi-wires I had been using.

Back to listening.

[Hyfi]

Well last night I finally twisted the AntiCables. I noticed an improvement in detail and high frequency extension. I would almost say the sound was a little sweeter but I do not hear any colorations with the cables. I think I may be hearing more of the true nature of the Krell.

I tried the AntiCables twisted and bi-wired with the Monitor Audio RS6's and I have to say what an improvement. Much of the improvement heard with the OML1's happened for the RS6's. Any sonic confusion with the bass driver with the mid and high frequency driver is gone. The speaker sounds much more integrated than before. What I thought were cabinet colorations/vibrations now seem to be problems from the Audioquest Slate bi-wires I had been using.

Back to listening.

JM, It's been fun to read your observations and differences between setups and speakers.

What is interesting about the above two posts is that I understood that if you were going to bi-wire (or bi-amp) the proper method of cabling is large solid core for bass, and lesser gauge twisted pairs for the upper connections.

So by leaving them untwisted, it seems like they had the bass, but the integration with mids and highs was lacking.

After twisting them, you now had more detail in the mids-highs, and probably more detail, clarity and control of the bass but may have lost just a little bottom end slam. That is actually a good thing for me at this time.

I used to want room shaking bass all the time but did not realize what I was missing. Now I much more appreciate clear precise detailed and controlled bass, with proper mids and highs over deep room shaking bass.

So next test is to bi-wire again but use the bass pair untwisted and the top pair twisted.

I am betting on another improvement.

[JohnMichael]

Hyfi what a great idea to twist only the cables for the upper frequencies. Your post had me thinking about ordering another pair of AntiCables and using my bi-wire pair for the woofer and the new single wire for the mids/highs. Due to their low price this would be a fun experiment. You have given me some great ideas.

I also wonder what a run of solid core silver for the upper range and copper for the woofer.

As far as the bass is concerned I now have deeper more tuneful bass than I did with the RS6's and AQ combo. Of course not room shaking bass but a very solid foundation. I am really having fun with these cables.

JM, It's been fun to read your observations and differences between setups and speakers.

What is interesting about the above two posts is that I understood that if you were going to bi-wire (or bi-amp) the proper method of cabling is large solid core for bass, and lesser gauge twisted pairs for the upper connections.

So by leaving them untwisted, it seems like they had the bass, but the integration with mids and highs was lacking.

After twisting them, you now had more detail in the mids-highs, and probably more detail, clarity and control of the bass but may have lost just a little bottom end slam. That is actually a good thing for me at this time.

I used to want room shaking bass all the time but did not realize what I was missing. Now I much more appreciate clear precise detailed and controlled bass, with proper mids and highs over deep room shaking bass.

So next test is to bi-wire again but use the bass pair untwisted and the top pair twisted.

I am betting on another improvement.

[JohnMichael]

I wanted to share this link for another solid core speaker cable that a member PM'ed me. Very similar and I am hoping if he does try them he will share his experience.

JW Audio - Speaker Cables

[frenchmon]

Well last night I finally twisted the AntiCables. I noticed an improvement in detail and high frequency extension. I would almost say the sound was a little sweeter but I do not hear any colorations with the cables. I think I may be hearing more of the true nature of the Krell.

The cables have been a lot of fun to experiment with and listen through. I can see the advantages of having Paul create a bi-amp pair shotgunned and twisted. While the two spades stacked on top of one another fit the Krell's speaker binding posts I think a single spade with the two wires soldered to it would be easier. I am also thinking Paul's twisting might be a little more consistent than mine. Even with my twisting it is easy to hear the benefits of twisting the cables.

All this for less than I will be spending tonight to see Lewis Black and a nice dinner. This hobby is a lot of fun.

Thats what I am talking about! It really is a lot of fun!