Thanks Steve, I was not sure. I know they are one of the only Rat Shack speakers that are actually worth buying and the article I saw was 2-3 years old. I just remember thet the guy said for cheaper speakers with a minimum of effore you could make them really nice. I got junky radio shack surrounds(look kinda like Bose cubes) right now and these seem to be a decent budget alternative for surrounds.