It's a doggone shame.

[02audionoob]

Nice addition to the family, frenchmon!

[frenchmon]

Nice addition to the family, frenchmon!

Well Thank you sir....the sound is amazing...even with the Red. Much louder than the 2.1 And the pops and scratches I heard previously with the 2.1 are gone.

I had no idea the Cedar Walton was moaning during his piano solo on Dextor Gordons Album Gothan City until I played it on the 7.1

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Im wondering if I really should get another phono amp? Dont get me wrong....the one in the Rotel is sounding really good, but I have nothing to compare it to, so I really dont know the level of performance I have. What do you think?

[poppachubby]

Well Thank you sir....the sound is amazing...even with the Red. Much louder than the 2.1 And the pops and scratches I heard previously with the 2.1 are gone.

I had no idea the Cedar Walton was moaning during his piano solo on Dextor Gordons Album Gothan City until I played it on the 7.1[ Im wondering if I really should get another phono amp? Dont get me wrong....the one in the Rotel is sounding really good, but I have nothing to compare it to, so I really dont know the level of performance I have. What do you think?

Congrats!! And welcome to high end analog...you have arrived my friend.

The 2M Black will floor you. I promise that you will only be thinking about your table for at least a couple of months.

As for your Rotel, I like the specs. I can tell you that my Bozak 919 has an amazing phono section. It's both incredible in sound and in design. I would say that it matches my Creek.

The easy and obvious advice is to audition something. I would assume that your Rotel can handle itself up to the 500 mark. Maybe not. It took my modded EICO to undo both my Creek and Bozak. My tech redesigned the old circuitry so that my signal is using BOTH pairs of tubes, much like most standard tubed stages at the $1K mark. He also added an extremely accurate RIAA curve.

The Black is an incredible cart and can indeed be held back by an underachieving stage. For now just sit back and enjoy what you have, worry about it in a few months.

[02audionoob]

Im wondering if I really should get another phono amp? Dont get me wrong....the one in the Rotel is sounding really good, but I have nothing to compare it to, so I really dont know the level of performance I have. What do you think?

I like poppa's advice to sit back and enjoy the music. That's what I'm doing, lately. Poppa is a wise man. I still tinker a bit, but no equipment changes. The phono stage is obviously very important and I don't doubt you're going to eventually (if not now) have the desire to upgrade. my integrated doesn't have a phono stage, so I had to find something. I feel like I got lucky with my PS Audio GCPH. I'd like to hear others in its price range, but it's really not practical. I do sometimes wish Rega had one in this range. Maybe someday I'll try a used Rega Fono just for grins.

Since you're on the market for a cartridge, I thought I'd offer up the idea of a Goldring Eroica. It's sort of an obvious choice because of the fact that Music Hall uses Goldring cartridges on their turntables...including the Eroica...but it's more than that. It's a really a nice cartridge on its own. I have it on my P5 while the Goldring 1042 sits in its box, waiting its turn. Both will be on the sidelines for a while in another month or two...when I get my Dynavector from Soundsmith.

[poppachubby]

I feel like I got lucky with my PS Audio GCPH. I'd like to hear others in its price range, but it's really not practical. I do sometimes wish Rega had one in this range. Maybe someday I'll try a used Rega Fono just for grins.

A Rega Fono?!? Yes I am grinning. Funny stuff. Actually London Audio will be receiving the Rega DAC soon, I am anxious to hear it.

Slippers you should look into the GCPH down the road. Wildly accurate with great features for a decent price.

[atomicAdam]

I have a very nice CDP I've not touch in 3 weeks. Been on a vinyl purchasing and listening binge.

Been buying field recordings from Allen Lomax and George Mitchell.

Pretty good stuff if you are into it.







Found a little record shop on 24th street in the Mission - on tuesday or thursdays I stop by after I climb at Mission Cliffs and get my burrito & beer on at Faralitos. Owner is cool - I think he is warming up to me - store has some crazy stuff - reminds me of being in a 'college' radio station music store. 80% of the stuff I've never heard of and the newer stuff almost 99% is local stuff I've no idea how it sounds.

[frenchmon]

A Rega Fono?!? Yes I am grinning. Funny stuff. Actually London Audio will be receiving the Rega DAC soon, I am anxious to hear it.

Slippers you should look into the GCPH down the road. Wildly accurate with great features for a decent price.

Thanks oh wise one...ah... I mean Pops....I will put it on the list.

[frenchmon]

I like poppa's advice to sit back and enjoy the music. That's what I'm doing, lately.

Well I will take that advice then...thanks Pop's and noob.

Poppa is a wise man.

With out a doubt.

I still tinker a bit, but no equipment changes. The phono stage is obviously very important and I don't doubt you're going to eventually (if not now) have the desire to upgrade.

Yeah...ima saving my pennies now for a preamp change in about 6-12 months. I want to get some tubed preamp to mate with the Rotel amp. I dont like an overly warm sound But I know I want something with the edge taken off a bit....my buddy has a ARC LS17 and I absolutely loved it...not as warm as Peabodys CJ gear but sweet, velvet like while still having a liveliness to it That the sound I like.. But I would rather have something newer in the $1000-$1500 range...got any suggestions? You Pops? Any Body?

My dealer sells Bel Canto which I like but I would rather have one of their DAC's CDP rather than preamp seeing Bel Canto while being outstanding stuff are some what proprietary. He also sells Vincent gear which I have listened to and have no problem with.. Take a look..click on the Vincent side. http://www.vincent-tac.de/

[guote] my integrated doesn't have a phono stage, so I had to find something. I feel like I got lucky with my PS Audio GCPH. I'd like to hear others in its price range, but it's really not practical. I do sometimes wish Rega had one in this range. Maybe someday I'll try a used Rega Fono just for grins.

Is the Rega Fono SS?

Since you're on the market for a cartridge, I thought I'd offer up the idea of a Goldring Eroica. It's sort of an obvious choice because of the fact that Music Hall uses Goldring cartridges on their turntables...including the Eroica...but it's more than that. It's a really a nice cartridge on its own. I have it on my P5 while the Goldring 1042 sits in its box, waiting its turn. Both will be on the sidelines for a while in another month or two...when I get my Dynavector from Soundsmith.

Do you know bajaed over on the Audiokarma forum? I got him a deal on a mmf-7.1 with the cart from my dealers. He is in town this weekend picking it up. When may meet up today or tomorrow at my dealers house to sit and talk audio before he goes back to Ohio. We I was at my dealers two days ago and he was breaking in the cart on bajaeds 7.1 before he picks it up, with this album that breaks in new carts, I ask if he would put on an Album so I can hear the Goldring 2400 cart that was on it. So he put on a Muddy Waters live album and man I could tell that cart was outstanding. But I think the system was a little overly warm for my taste. Not because of the cart, but because he had the entire Bel Canto system which is warm ss gear and he was using a Grado phono amp which is also warm toned. But I could still tell the cart is outstanding. Its not totally off my list. In fact with the 7.1 the 2M Red at times with certain artist seem a little to bright ...but the Black is suppose to be a little more pleasant in that regard.

Have you purchased the Dynavector yet? Which one are you getting? Dont know what you are paying but my dealer is able to sell cheaper because he closed his brick building and sells now out of his house. He will sell me a Black for almost $200 cheaper than retail. IF you want I can see what he will sell on for and then I can put you in contact with him and you two can make the transaction. Let me know.

frenchmon

[02audionoob]

Is the Rega Fono SS?



Do you know bajaed over on the Audiokarma forum? I got him a deal on a mmf-7.1 with the cart from my dealers. He is in town this weekend picking it up. When may meet up today or tomorrow at my dealers house to sit and talk audio before he goes back to Ohio. We I was at my dealers two days ago and he was breaking in the cart on bajaeds 7.1 before he picks it up, with this album that breaks in new carts, I ask if he would put on an Album so I can hear the Goldring 2400 cart that was on it. So he put on a Muddy Waters live album and man I could tell that cart was outstanding. But I think the system was a little overly warm for my taste. Not because of the cart, but because he had the entire Bel Canto system which is warm ss gear and he was using a Grado phono amp which is also warm toned. But I could still tell the cart is outstanding. Its not totally off my list. In fact with the 7.1 the 2M Red at times with certain artist seem a little to bright ...but the Black is suppose to be a little more pleasant in that regard.

Have you purchased the Dynavector yet? Which one are you getting? Dont know what you are paying but my dealer is able to sell cheaper because he closed his brick building and sells now out of his house. He will sell me a Black for almost $200 cheaper than retail. IF you want I can see what he will sell on for and then I can put you in contact with him and you two can make the transaction. Let me know.

frenchmon

The Rega Fono is nothing much, as far as I know. It's a budget SS model. I just figure if I pick one up for under $200 on the used market, I could maybe try it out on the wife's Debut III/Kenwood Basic setup. And if it's not better than the phono stage of the Basic C2 I'd sell it. But it was just a fleeting thought...nothing related to trying to achieve what you're aiming for.

I've responded to bajaed's threads and even traded PM's with him. Seems like a great guy. He asked for opinions on the mmf-7.1, among others. I plan to keep watching for his threads. Naturally I like the AK threads that get into modern affordable turntables, instead of the 1960s/1970s models.

The Dynavector is a 10X4. It's in the queue for a re-tip. Thanks for offering to hook me up.

I'm sort of curious about the 2400 since I had a 2200 and liked it. When I sold my mmf-5 I included the 2200 and then bought the 1042. I'm happy with the 1042, but I sort of wish I hadn't let go of the 2200. The buyer is an AKer who has already ditched the mmf-5 for a Rega P1. Very odd.

[frenchmon]

The Rega Fono is nothing much, as far as I know. It's a budget SS model. I just figure if I pick one up for under $200 on the used market, I could maybe try it out on the wife's Debut III/Kenwood Basic setup. And if it's not better than the phono stage of the Basic C2 I'd sell it. But it was just a fleeting thought...nothing related to trying to achieve what you're aiming for.

I've responded to bajaed's threads and even traded PM's with him. Seems like a great guy. He asked for opinions on the mmf-7.1, among others. I plan to keep watching for his threads. Naturally I like the AK threads that get into modern affordable turntables, instead of the 1960s/1970s models.

The Dynavector is a 10X4. It's in the queue for a re-tip. Thanks for offering to hook me up.

I'm sort of curious about the 2400 since I had a 2200 and liked it. When I sold my mmf-5 I included the 2200 and then bought the 1042. I'm happy with the 1042, but I sort of wish I hadn't let go of the 2200. The buyer is an AKer who has already ditched the mmf-5 for a Rega P1. Very odd.

Hey if you needed anything my dealer sells...check with me or him to see if its cheaper than the price you are quoted. He usually is...I will PM you his site so you can take a look at what he offers....he also has some stuff thats not on his site.

Yeah thats strange to ditch a MMF 5 for a P1....Is it the same guy who at one time owned the clearaudio concept ? If it is thats a really nice guy who has been through a lot of gear.

[02audionoob]

Hey if you needed anything my dealer sells...check with me or him to see if its cheaper than the price you are quoted. He usually is...I will PM you his site so you can take a look at what he offers....he also has some stuff thats not on his site.

Yeah thats strange to ditch a MMF 5 for a P1....Is it the same guy who at one time owned the clearaudio concept ? If it is thats a really nice guy who has been through a lot of gear.

Thanks for the tip on your dealer. I think it was Art K. who had the Concept and now has a P1. I think he had some problems with the Concept but I don't know why he sold it. At one time, he had a P3-24...don't know the story on that one, either...or that Rega Saturn he sold. He does do some gear-changing.

I sort of felt bad about the guy who bought my mmf-5. He had just sold a P3-24 and was downgrading his gear to raise money for expenses, not other gear...and then he apparently didn't like it. I tried to help him set it up and even offered to swap him an Ortofon OM for the Goldring to see if a lighter cartridge would track better. The tracking seemed to be giving him problems.

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