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    If you're content with two channel, drop most of your $$ on an above average amp, say NAD, and scour the used market for a used tuner. If you don't mind a little exercise like turning a tuning knob and no presets, analog tuners are generally* better in all ways to more modern digital tuners.

    * but not always

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    While I agree that specs are not everything, they are pertinent to help define the list of what you want. Then you should go out and listen to that list and decide what, if any, of these that you want. I noticed in your profile RGA that you don't own a yamaha but you always seem to recommend them. Perhaps your getting kickbacks from them. Hmmmm. Have you ever owned a Yamaha? Anyways, not to get into a childish flaming war, here is a link to a HK 3475 on e-bay. Auction ends in 11 hours. Its direct from harman audio and carries the original manufacturers warranty.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3279

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    Quote Originally Posted by poneal
    While I agree that specs are not everything, they are pertinent to help define the list of what you want. Then you should go out and listen to that list and decide what, if any, of these that you want. I noticed in your profile RGA that you don't own a yamaha but you always seem to recommend them. Perhaps your getting kickbacks from them. Hmmmm. Have you ever owned a Yamaha? Anyways, not to get into a childish flaming war, here is a link to a HK 3475 on e-bay. Auction ends in 11 hours. Its direct from harman audio and carries the original manufacturers warranty.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3279
    I would hardly say I'm ecommending Yamaha...the review I posted was of the top of the line Yammie and the review was hardly flattering.

    I owned a Yamaha tuner which was pretty decent for the $20.00 I paid second hand - it retailed new for $300.00. For $300.00 it amazes me Yamaha could have sold one. Even at $20.00 I ended up trading it in...though I did manage to get $90.00 for it - not bad.

    Used tuners are in any Cash COverters and most pawn shops or even used record shops...dirt cheap.

    Get a little integrated from NAD, Cambridge Audio or Arcam.

    You could probably get an Arcam Delta 290(Stereophile Class B 1997 - for what it's worth to you) on the used market for $350.00 and a tuner for $30.00 and there $380.00 and I'll take this over ANY integrated or 2 channel new receiver from Yamaha, Denon, NAD, Cambridge Audio, and even some of the new more expensive Arcam's.

    Used amplifiers in my view is the way to go. May as well get the best amp you can for your dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    If you're content with two channel, drop most of your $$ on an above average amp, say NAD, and scour the used market for a used tuner. If you don't mind a little exercise like turning a tuning knob and no presets, analog tuners are generally* better in all ways to more modern digital tuners.

    * but not always
    Hi Mark, it's me (Igor), I changed my name with this new look. I tried to register igor but it didn't work for some reason. Oh well.

    If you recall, I have a great amp already - a Roksan amp & cd player. I probably won't get rid of it, but it gets me thinking. I have tried to buy a used tuner over ebay (and RGA, there are none to buy locally) but EVERY time, I get outbid at the last moment. So I've given up. I really can't afford a even a used tuner at the moment. So if I sold my Roksan stuff, I could afford a lesser receiver new, and get the tuner to boot. I like the NAD C-740 receiver, and might consider that. But by the time I buy that and a matching cd player (I like them to match) I probably am not saving any money.

    I would like to buy the matching Roksan tuner, but I never see them new or used.

    In terms of quality, I know any of these receiver won't be as good as what I have. But for my current lifestyle, I don't care that much. I never get to listen to it anyway. My 2 kids usually play stuff, and I get to watch them dance. It is almost to the point that the only reason I even have a stereo is for them, or background noise when I am cleaning the house! If I do ever get to listen to what I want, it is either in the car, or at work. I'm thinkig of getting a MP3 player, just to hear some new stuff.

    In a few years, when I have more $$, I will begin upgrading to some serious equipment, and whatever I have now will go in one of the kids bedrooms.

    How is life in NJ? I am heading that way tomorrow for a meeting, and then off to Manhattan for an event, and a few meetings Friday morning. Then back to Ithaca. Take care, Ian

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    Ian! Nice to hear from ya. Thought you dropped off the face of the earth. Gettin' much snow yet?

    I feel for ya having to "compromise" your listening habits. Been there... done that... likewhen I gave up my nice, biiiig apartment for a small house and putting the maggies in the closet...

    Anyhow, I made do with a Denon 2802 and a set of Athena speakers and a Velo sub. It ain't maggie sound but it does more than satisfy, considering what it is and what I came from.

    We should be able to move in another 1 1/2 - 2 years, depending.

    If you do think Denon, let me know. I got mine at 6th avenue for $395 on an in-store sale a few months ago. ...List was 799 I think. They always have some amazing loss leaders although since they went with the new, glossy Sunday paper inserts, not quite as many as before. It might be worth a trip here if the price is right.

    Say.... Isn't Audio Classics around the corner from ya? No pedestrian tuners there? Someday I'll be truckin' up there for some nice, old, MacIntosh stuff. ...someday...

    If you get down here, give me a shout. I'm only a 25 minute train ride (or 50 minute drive)from NYC. Goin' to the show this year?

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    Hey Mark!

    Hey Mark,
    Yeah, we've had a lot of snow, although much worse north of us - lake effect snow. Poor saps there got 4 feet yesterday alone. This has been a cold, cold month. I like winter, but even I am getting sick of this.

    I was in NYC last week - just a quick trip in and out. Cold there too.

    I'm getting a nice tax refund back, so no need to sell anything now. Unless it is because of boredom. I'll look into separate tuners now. Audio Classics is somewhere not too far away. But not close enough to just visit.

    What show are you referring to, CES? If so, no. I've never been either. It would probably drive me insane. Last thing my credit card needs!

    I might upgrade some parts of my system, not sure yet. Mostly I want a bigger TV monitor, but I shouldn't spend the money yet. Maybe a sub for my 2 channel system. But first the tuner. I also need a new fridge, but you can't play a fridge can you?

    I get on this site now and then. I just to seem to have much time to respond to posts anymore, or nothing new for me to say. Later dude.


    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Ian! Nice to hear from ya. Thought you dropped off the face of the earth. Gettin' much snow yet?

    I feel for ya having to "compromise" your listening habits. Been there... done that... likewhen I gave up my nice, biiiig apartment for a small house and putting the maggies in the closet...

    Anyhow, I made do with a Denon 2802 and a set of Athena speakers and a Velo sub. It ain't maggie sound but it does more than satisfy, considering what it is and what I came from.

    We should be able to move in another 1 1/2 - 2 years, depending.

    If you do think Denon, let me know. I got mine at 6th avenue for $395 on an in-store sale a few months ago. ...List was 799 I think. They always have some amazing loss leaders although since they went with the new, glossy Sunday paper inserts, not quite as many as before. It might be worth a trip here if the price is right.

    Say.... Isn't Audio Classics around the corner from ya? No pedestrian tuners there? Someday I'll be truckin' up there for some nice, old, MacIntosh stuff. ...someday...

    If you get down here, give me a shout. I'm only a 25 minute train ride (or 50 minute drive)from NYC. Goin' to the show this year?

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