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    Come on now, sometimes a BS word is necessary, it's very difficult to put sound into a description. As an example I remember discussing the Adcom gfa-5500 and Feanor used the word "earthy" to describe the sound. Earthy sounds pretty strange to describe sound but if you've heard the amp "earthy" really hit the nail on the head as the amp was dark with a unique signature that earthy came as close to anything I've heard to describe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    Come on now, sometimes a BS word is necessary, it's very difficult to put sound into a description. As an example I remember discussing the Adcom gfa-5500 and Feanor used the word "earthy" to describe the sound. Earthy sounds pretty strange to describe sound but if you've heard the amp "earthy" really hit the nail on the head as the amp was dark with a unique signature that earthy came as close to anything I've heard to describe it.
    Here's the problem; "Earthy" may mean something totally different to different people. From the smell of a newly planted field, to the scent of a dirt floored cellar. Trying to stick to words that have as close to standard meanings in the context that they are used is the hallmark of good reviewing. These words like "holistic" and "earthy are so vague that you might as well be casting a horoscope rather than doing a review. Good reviewers ban words like that from their reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffcin
    Here's the problem; "Earthy" may mean something totally different to different people. From the smell of a newly planted field, to the scent of a dirt floored cellar. Trying to stick to words that have as close to standard meanings in the context that they are used is the hallmark of good reviewing. These words like "holistic" and "earthy are so vague that you might as well be casting a horoscope rather than doing a review. Good reviewers ban words like that from their reviews.

    So, I'll have my SS glace' with a dollop of tube caramel please!
    Yes but if you bothered to read the entire review you would get a good sense of the way he felt about both stereos. To focus on one word is the same as the morons who find one mistake in one minor point in a 5000 point theory and then discount the entire thing because they don't happen to like the stance taken as it doesn't fit with their own "lack of experience" but assumptions. Most people who get on that maker do so because if it is in fact true that they are "right" then that means a big chunk of their long time belief systems will crack. A lot of people who spend tens of thousands of dollars don't want to believe they threw their money away on comparative rubbish. That is why I give Kevin Credit. His belief was complete opposite - he trusted the measurements, he bought all the supposed "right" gear and yet he kept an open mind. Had some beat up less expensive gear delivered and it destroyed not only his mid-fi equipment masquerading as hi-fi but shattered all that he knew and accepted as the truth. Same gear did it to me.

    He used the word Holistic - relating to or concerned with wholes or with complete systems rather than with the analysis of, treatment of, or dissection into parts

    I have no problem with that term in audio. He is discussing Audio Note which is probably the only company in the industry (high end industry) that Truly looks at the "whole" (holistic) stereo system as one voice. Comparatively everyone else is building Frankenstein monsters that usually sound like Frankenstein looks. The word fits the company.

    Far too many stereo systems sound like they're dissecting the album (when in reality it is usually the stereo sounding discombobulated into isolated parts. A holistic system sounds complete, of a piece, real whole. Nothing at all wrong with that term. In fact if one complains about that terms it's more than likely they have never heard a system that sounds "real," "whole," and "complete." The alternate is isolated separate out of step systems. Sounds like SS to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    I have no problem with that term in audio. He is discussing Audio Note which is probably the only company in the industry (high end industry) that Truly looks at the "whole" (holistic) stereo system as one voice. Comparatively everyone else is building Frankenstein monsters that usually sound like Frankenstein looks. The word fits the company.
    Please do not to go down that route again....thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by theaudiohobby
    Please do not to go down that route again....thank you
    Digging up posts from 12 days ago - who is going down that route? Nice.



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