I'm finding the rxv650 has more power than I thought, nevertheless I'm determined to get an amp. You're saying they don't depreciate much, that just solidifies my decision to get one. Thanks again kexodusc. I actually found one new it's called ati at 1502 and it boasts 150wx2 for 449 new at a dealer called onecall...is this a good one? Oh also, why would you get an integrated over a regular amp or vice versa? thanks