QSC MX3000a POWER AMPLIFIER VS. CROWN REFERENCE I STUDIO POWER AMPLIFIER

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Why restate the obvious? That isn't what is going to seperate their design from others in a competative (sic) market.

That's right. Especially considering how discerning the "disco music" market is!

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Under certain conditions, Crown CTs amps can produce power levels far above the published specs. The specs shown in data sheets are very conservative. The data sheet power spec is the rated maximum power per channel with all channels driven with a sine wave.

But in the real world, not all channels might be playing the same program. You might be playing Disco music on channels 1 and 2, while channels 3 and 4 are inactive except for announcements. In that case, CTs amps can generate significantly higher power than the published spec. That Disco music will really kick.

Why Crown CTS Amps Sound Better

Don't forget to read the exciting summary! I really do want to keep the loudness levels up during compression - don't you?

rw

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That's right. Especially considering how discerning the "disco music" market is!

Are you always this stupid and bigoted? Or do you just hate Crown? -Bruce

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Are you always this stupid and bigoted? Or do you just hate Crown? -Bruce

C'mon Bruce - uncomfortable with what they consider their strengths? Any audio company that touts its amp's ability to compress music for the greatest loudness level is not indicative of one that pursues high fidelity. Which is entirely expected in that market niche.

I had a D-150 many a year ago and found it to be quite reliable. See my comments in another Crown thread. I don't "hate" pickup trucks either, but when performance is desired, a sports car is a better fit.

rw

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"...That's right. Especially considering how discerning the "disco music" market is!..."

"... Don't forget to read the exciting summary! I really do want to keep the loudness levels up during compression - don't you?..."

"...Any audio company that touts its amp's ability to compress music for the greatest loudness level is not indicative of one that pursues high fidelity..."

Here's a hanky, you have some snot on you...

"Niches, we got plenty niches" says the Crown website. Looks as though they optimize designs to fit 'em as needs of the business dictate.

Tsk, tsk...you get a "F" on that one...didn't do our COMPLETE homework, eh?

...the original poster inquired as to the Crown Reference Series amps...not the CTs or K-series...the latter two utilize Crown's TLC thermal input compression scheme...the former one doesn't.

Bruce quoted specs from the Micro-series...designed and built for touring, no TLC in these either...built to withstand ham-handed roadies, most trav'lin' bands don't require "audiophile-grade" distortion specs...

jimHJJ(...poor, poor Crown...just not "fancy" or expensive enough...)

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..poor, poor Crown...just not "fancy" or expensive enough.

Or, choice C, optimized for the reasons I stated above, not sound quality.

BTW, here is my "fancy" amp:



It's got a power switch and a LED indicator. Sheesh.

rw

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...we no speaka da Ingles...

"...You confuse me with Crown's copy writers. They used that example twice..."

Yes, indeedy-do...in reference to the CTs and K- series, not the Studio Reference series. I'll bet a few studios might even use the stuff...it's OK to MAKE(and don't get nit-picky about the word) the recordings with, but in my home... heaven forbid!

"....BTW, here is my "fancy" amp:It's got a power switch and a LED indicator..."

Since you aren't the only one who in all of human history has found fault with pro gear in a home situation, I was speaking in general. Crown seems to take it's share of lumps because it's too cheeep and doesn't have that high-end (read: "fancy") mystique...

jimHJJ(...have a safe weekend...)

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Crown seems to take it's share of lumps because it's too cheeep and doesn't have that high-end (read: "fancy") mystique...

Crown has always had a particular taste for high negative feedback designs. The DF of the Studio Reference line is 20,000, suggesting that habit continues unabated. The usual result is less than ideal high frequency performance. I also question the thoroughness of a minimum 1.6 kilowatt amp that weighs only sixty pounds. My 200 watt Threshold amp weighs about the same.

To each his own.

Enjoy a long and safe weekend yourself. I'm going to work on completing my DIY tube traps and naturally, listen to some muc-sic as well.

rw

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C'mon Bruce - uncomfortable with what they consider their strengths? Any audio company that touts its amp's ability to compress music for the greatest loudness level is not indicative of one that pursues high fidelity. Which is entirely expected in that market niche.

I had a D-150 many a year ago and found it to be quite reliable. See my comments in another Crown thread. I don't "hate" pickup trucks either, but when performance is desired, a sports car is a better fit.

rw

I'm only unconfortable with the fact that you are running all over pulling bits and pieces from multiple models, to try and put down Crown.

Including the ridiculous suggestion that they only cater to the disco crowd.

-Bruce

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I'm only unconfortable with the fact that you are running all over pulling bits and pieces from multiple models, to try and put down Crown.

By "running all over", I went to The Crown Amplifier Information page for insight. Pro gear is great for pro applications. I find better sounding amps available than pro units, IMHO, having owned both types.

Including the ridiculous suggestion that they only cater to the disco crowd.

You confuse me with Crown's copy writers. They used that example twice.

rw