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    Super Moderator Site Moderator JohnMichael's Avatar
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    No news from Krell yet. I want them to take their time and go over the amp completely but I also wanted it yesterday. I miss my toys when they are away. The Onkyo is not up to Krell standards.
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    Trying to enjoy music. Easy to do with the Krell but tougher with the Onkyo. One day I need to listen to another Class D amp to see if what troubles me about the Onkyo is typical with Class D designs. I have even been thinking about a budget integrated amp as a back up for the Krell and selling the Onkyo. Of course I hope the Krell comes back trouble free.
    JohnMichael
    Vinyl Rega Planar 2, Incognito rewire, Deepgroove subplatter, ceramic bearing, Michell Technoweight, Rega 24V motor, TTPSU, FunkFirm Achroplat platter, Michael Lim top and bottom braces, 2 Rega feet and one RDC cones. Grado Sonata, Moon 110 LP phono.
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    Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD/cd SID mat, Marantz SA 8001
    Int. Amp Krell S-300i
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    Monitor Audio RS6
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    AQ SPKR and AQ XLR and IC

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    Not all Class D amps sound the same. I have heard some good ones and bad ones.

    NuForce Model 9se v2's sound great as do the Bel Canto's that I have heard.

    Hopefully you will get the Krell back soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    ... One day I need to listen to another Class D amp to see if what troubles me about the Onkyo is typical with Class D designs. I have even been thinking about a budget integrated amp as a back up for the Krell and selling the Onkyo. ...
    What qualifies as 'budget', JM?

    The Peachtree nova65SE looks kind of interesting to me, and it's presently only $800. It's a class D with tube buffered input; it has a built in Sabre DAC but no phono. See HERE.


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    Teac has some nice integrated amps like this one for $699

    AX-501 | TEAC

    Dagogo has given some of their gear nice reviews.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
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    I was just trying to listen to the Onkyo for a few hours of music when it became fatiguing. I certainly do not want another Class D amp. I just need to be patient for the Krell.
    JohnMichael
    Vinyl Rega Planar 2, Incognito rewire, Deepgroove subplatter, ceramic bearing, Michell Technoweight, Rega 24V motor, TTPSU, FunkFirm Achroplat platter, Michael Lim top and bottom braces, 2 Rega feet and one RDC cones. Grado Sonata, Moon 110 LP phono.
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    Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD/cd SID mat, Marantz SA 8001
    Int. Amp Krell S-300i
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    Monitor Audio RS6
    Cables
    AQ SPKR and AQ XLR and IC

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    Class D vs. Class AB

    I hope all goes well with your Krell.It depends which class D amplifier you listen to.I think the sound I get from my custom class A amplifier and from my Pioneer SC-LX87 av receiver (class d power amp section) is superior to ANY class AB amplifier. I can't stand the crossover distortion of class AB amplifiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kursun View Post
    I hope all goes well with your Krell.It depends which class D amplifier you listen to.I think the sound I get from my custom class A amplifier and from my Pioneer SC-LX87 av receiver (class d power amp section) is superior to ANY class AB amplifier. I can't stand the crossover distortion of class AB amplifiers.
    I haven't noticed any distortion. Maybe that's because I keep mine in class A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kursun View Post
    I hope all goes well with your Krell.It depends which class D amplifier you listen to.I think the sound I get from my custom class A amplifier and from my Pioneer SC-LX87 av receiver (class d power amp section) is superior to ANY class AB amplifier. I can't stand the crossover distortion of class AB amplifiers.

    I am surprised that the switching distortion of Class D does not bother you if Class A/B crossover distortion does.
    JohnMichael
    Vinyl Rega Planar 2, Incognito rewire, Deepgroove subplatter, ceramic bearing, Michell Technoweight, Rega 24V motor, TTPSU, FunkFirm Achroplat platter, Michael Lim top and bottom braces, 2 Rega feet and one RDC cones. Grado Sonata, Moon 110 LP phono.
    Digital
    Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD/cd SID mat, Marantz SA 8001
    Int. Amp Krell S-300i
    Speaker
    Monitor Audio RS6
    Cables
    AQ SPKR and AQ XLR and IC

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