Id like to stay around $500. Tone would be cool, not needed though. It doesnt need to be vintage, just used would be better cost and performance wise. I have heard great things about adcom.

To sum things up....Don't care about phono, tone is a yes/no, black would be perfered, Something thats not quite entry level but not high end, as $500 won't really get me to far high end wise.

Would It be cheaper to look into integrated amp's with preouts?

I have heard and read great things about the t-amp I am ordering and I just dont think I can live with a volume knob and one input, so I figure add a decent preamp with good interconnects and it should work out great!

Thanks!