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[frenchmon]

WEll, post 40 seems pretty clear inn "romanticizing" the added distortiion tube amps provide when PRODUCING musical sounds in a performance and saying that is equally desirable in home music reproduction. It's not.

Man....come on Mark. Perception man. Kindly let it go. But now I will attempt to clear it up.

Have you ever heard of the Romantic era? Happened in Europe...spread to America in about the 18th century and pertained to the arts, literature and MUSIC. Those who where not wealthy and rich needed it....a way of escape for them..... sort a like what the Swing era did for people in America during the great depression.

Had a lot to do with perception and ones emotion from what one perceived. Its was an departure from realism....and by the way, the period of realism followed the era of romanticism. So in other words Mark....What the Vincent has done for me is inject me with emotion and feeling in a way that you cant understand or feel. I have romanticized it....a departure from the reality of distortion and a not so clean sound as in Solid State. I welcome the sound of the distorted music... let it into my soul....and it moves me with passion. I am in the moment. Mind you, does not mean Tubes with all it has to offer is better in the real world....only in the moment while I am enjoying it....so hyperbole??? I have no problem with that. The Romantic era was a departure from facts or realism and an entrance into emotion with fear and sometimes awe, as in what my Vincent has done for me....and I am sure your SS does for you.

And, let's face it, your timing in jumping in to defense of tubes in post 51 is quite obvious, particularly considering that the post I responded just pior to that was a direct, fairly sarcastic, rsponse to some bone-headed post by some other tubie immediately prior. You easily could have sat this one out instead of popping your head up into the crosshairs.

If I misead you then I apologize but you did ask for it after post 51. Be honest.

Post 51....I was just stating that in this case, distortion is a good thing for reasons expressed above. Still I have said nothing to suggest tube is better...but if one thinks it is in the real world, then that's his opinion. Not a big deal.

Ahh....no need for an apology...you and I are still cool. I want no enemy's....only good conversation and spirited debated.

[markw]

Preferences are perfectly fine as long as they are acknowkledged as such. I love Van Gogh but wouldn't want capturing visual images of my grandkids growing up. Don't even get me started with Picasso of Dali there.

What dragged me back into this thread was when some turkey said "everybody goes to tubes eventually". Blatent BS like that will elicit a response every time.

[frenchmon]

Preferences are perfectly fine as long as they are acknowkledged as such. I love Van Gogh but wouldn't want capturing visual images of my grandkids growing up. Don't even get me started with Picasso of Dali there.

What dragged me back into this thread was when some turkey said "everybody goes to tubes eventually". Blatent BS like that will elicit a response every time.

My Man!

[RGA]

Feanor you were schooled by morricab - why not actually learn something - maybe if you could actually hear you'd be worth talking to - granted when you have no high frequency hearing why you think you should be opining on audio quality is a complete laugh since most of the complains are the high frequencies.

It's funny - the first rule of science is observation - which requires first hand experience - of which you have none. Mark is just a troll - I get that. No one can possibly be that deaf.