Quote Originally Posted by nightflier
If you include the time we spend video conferencing, probably 2-3 hours per day, and on some days much more. We do a considerable amount of text-to-speech and back processing, and we also pod/videocast content; most of this is higher quality than your typical YouTube fare, so we can synch it up to TVs, projectors, and the other computers screens in our company and in our homes (I consciously don't bring my work home, but that's me). Anyhow, we certainly use video more than most, so I really don't want to use myself as an example nor do I want to presuppose that this is the norm. On the other hand I work with many people who do the same: scientists, businessmen, academics, engineers, etc. and so I won't completely negate it's applicability, either. Perhaps this is not as mainstream yet, but for us it's very much part of our daily work, and we tend to agree that this is where the future is headed.
We are not talking work here NF, we are talking entertainment and leisure time. We are talking about movies, and you are talking about work. So Wooch is right, you are using yourself as an example, and not your average consumer. Now your argument loses more credibility.

I also want to emphasize that their perspective is entirely too US-centric and does not at all apply to a more world-wide perspective. It's actually ironic that when I caught them making ridiculous claims about techies in general, and I then mentioned that my contacts in Japan did not at all agree with their model, they quickly backtracked with the fantasy that somehow Japanese techies should be considered separately. This ongoing segmentation and compartementalization in their debating style is typical, but has a deeper basis, I think.
Either you are a patent liar, or you are living in an alternate universe that interprets English in a unique way. In the context of the discussion we were talking about the fact that the Japanese has invented almost all of the consumer electronic devices we use for home video. They brought us VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, HD-DVD and Bluray. What has the American technology sector brought? Not one dang thing. What you are attempting to do is ride the coattails of the Japanese, when the American sector has not contributed a damn thing to my hometheater. They should be considered separately because their business model is different, the way they think is different, and the way they operate as a whole is completely different. Case and point (and extremely relevant in this greedy climate we live in) The Japanese do not set their eyes solely on immediate profits. They have long term goals with an eye to the future, they desire to be the best in technology. America is looking for the next best money maker, why reinvent something to make it better if it only makes $1 million dollars, it needs to make a few million dollars to usually be considered. They have a need to develop new technology to fuel their economy and help the hunger crave of Americans (and the world for that matter) for newer better things. American technology sector on the other hand is not trying to survive, they are trying to get richer and sometimes this blinds people on what can and will work. Culturally, the Japanese tech worker works harder, and has a better work ethic. These facts have been documented over and over again, so this whole idea that a Japanese techie is the same as an American one, is pure BS.

When needed, they confuse and mix up references from different economic / market sectors, geographic regions, cultures, and technological fields to prove a point that just happens to coincide with a self-serving goal. After all, they both work in the industry that they are reporting on and cannot see the world outside of it. Granted, I work with digital video quite a bit and have for years, but I would hope that I am not letting that comprise my entire perspective.
Well you are, and what is interesting is you don't seem to know it. You are not advancing anything but pure BS, fantasy, and just plain making crap up on the fly. There is no reason or fact to what you post, it is just your gut feeling. I believe it was you who said that Apple TV, Roku and other streaming devices would dominate hometheaters in the future. Guess what, they have all fallen flat on their collective faces, and the Blu ray player ended up being the dominate streaming box. What about your other prediction that the format war would leave an opening for downloads to dominate the video market. It didn't happen did it?
Your comments here time and time again fly in the face or reality over and over again.

For them, anything too gray, vague, unmeasurable, is immediately dismissed as not fitting the black & white mold. But in my field, computers, it is is actually by looking at these less tangible areas that we find answers that often give us the competitive edge over our competitors. I suppose our field lives in the gray and the uncertain, and this is rather unsettling for them and is likely the source for so much resentment and criticism.
The computer field is not the video field. So what you deem right in the computer field, is dead wrong for the video industry. The video industry is driven by tangibles such as profit and loss, and sales. Maybe the industry you work in does not use these guidelines, but the video industry does. What gives you a competitive edge in the computer industry, does not work for the film or video industry. Why would what you do in the computer industry be so unsettling to the film industry? This is more BS, THEY ARE DIFFERENT FIELDS!!! Nobody in the film industry cares about what you guys do in the computer industry, we are busy running our own businesses. That statement is stupid but typical. You seem to think that computer industry is flawless, all while computer sales are in the tank. 2009 was the worst sales period for the computer industry EVER, so you guys are not what I would be looking at as the pinnacle of success.


Perhaps being or pointing out what is the biggest, the best, the largest, or the most popular isn't everything we should be paying attention to. And that's been my point all along.
Your point has not been this at all. Your point has been to parrot techie journalist in their plight to make the computer industry relevant within the film and video industry. Perhaps being or pointing out what is the smallest, most portable, or what is most popular among the computer geek crowd is not what is interesting to the general public. The general public has voted they want bigger, better and the largest, while the computer geeks want the most portable and smaller. I own a smartphone, but it will not be a replacement, or even an extension of my television. The only videos I watch on it are the ones that others send me, and they are never more than a few seconds long. This is how the public uses smartphones, not as movie viewing devices. If I want directions, I use my smartphone. If I want to make a call(even at home) I use my smartphone. If I want to listen to music while waiting for BART, I will use my smartphone or Ipod. When I want to watch a movie, I go to my home theater, not my phone. Based on the statistics, that is how most Americans use their cell and smartphones.