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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEBIALEK
    Perhaps known as one of the greatest murder mysteries of all time, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy has for years intrigued scholars, authors and the average American citizen. The assassination can be classified into two distinct categories: method and significance. Few would argue that too much emphasis has been given to the method and very little to the significance. This is exactly how the perpetrators would like it to be. Photographic evidence along with eyewitness testimony has already conclusively proven that JFK was shot by more than one assassin. The Mary Mormon photo clearly shows the profile of a shooter behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll. It is obviously someone wearing a policeman's uniform {some speculate it was J.D. Tippit}. This was the fatal head shot. Two other bullets struck the President; the first one entered at the base of the throat and the second struck him in the back. While the positions of the assassins makes for a good game of clue, the more important issue is the significance of the assassination.

    Many have speculated that the former Soviet Union, Cuba, the KKK, the Mafia, LBJ, CIA and the FBI all had strong motives to attempt this. However, given the connection of Lee Harvey Oswald to the CIA and Jack Ruby to the Mafia along with the altered autopsy reports, the evidence points to a coup de' dat by the CIA. They did it because they believed JFK was taking the United States on the wrong path towards dealing with communism. That is the reason why the cover-up has been sustained for so long. The perpetrators honestly believed they were doing the right thing for the United States at the time. The will of the people was discarded in favor of preserving the nation as they saw fit. Unfortunately, they didn't realize the long term effects of the assassination. One result was the increased power of capitalism over democracy. Profit has become more important than freedom. Corporations are more concerned with increasing the wealth of a select few than with promoting the general welfare of the very nation that allows them to conduct business. A second result has been the subordination of this nation's civil liberties to the private agendas of the powers that be. The only opinions that are accepted today are those that further the bottom line. Contrary opinions are discouraged and distorted by spin doctors. The only explanation for the lack of attention given to the significance of the assassination is because the government, the military and the media all know what happened and to expose the event for what it really was goes to the central core of what constitutes the United States of America.
    I think you hit the nail on the head. The man behind the fence wearing the policemans uniform was a man named Luician Saurtee. Not sure of the spelling. His shot missed the car completely and the bullit was found inbedded in the grass across the road. The fatal head shot came from the manhole drain from in front and slightly to the right. Research has shown this through projectory as Kennedy's head moves back and to the right. Luician Saurtee was killed in Mexico City in 1974. Yes it was the CIA in conjunction with the mafia and the military industrial complex. The Vietman war was the main reason as Kennedy was in the process of getting the soldiers out. The war in Vietnam meant alot of money for very powerful men. The perpetrators were not thinking of the United States, only of themselves. There are many photographs in Dealy Plaza from that day exposing many high ranking government officials, some of who are still alive today. When asked where they were that day, most say they can't recall! One only has to look at how things changed after that day, who benifited, who was involved, and who lived the longest everafter, to be able to figure it out.

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    What Americans can't accept ...

    Is that some tweebie jerk misfit nobody with a $20 rifle could blow 'way the high and mighty U.S. President. But I think that's the way it went down.

    I suspect Oswald fired three shots -- not just two. The two bullet theory can from some "expert" who wasn't as componetent cranking the Carcano bolt as Oswald, so, not to look bad he proclaimed only two shots could have been fired but he was wrong.

    Yes, Oswald was "lucky" to put the one through Kennedy's head, but luck happens. Another when through Kennedy's neck and might been the bullet found in the Governor's pant cuff. Another inflicted the Governor's wound. I don't recall what I thought was the order of the shots, except the head shot was probably last. Anyway, that's my theory -- as good as any and better than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    Is that some tweebie jerk misfit nobody with a $20 rifle could blow 'way the high and mighty U.S. President. But I think that's the way it went down.

    I suspect Oswald fired three shots -- not just two. The two bullet theory can from some "expert" who wasn't as componetent cranking the Carcano bolt as Oswald, so, not to look bad he proclaimed only two shots could have been fired but he was wrong.

    Yes, Oswald was "lucky" to put the one through Kennedy's head, but luck happens. Another when through Kennedy's neck and might been the bullet found in the Governor's pant cuff. Another inflicted the Governor's wound. I don't recall what I thought was the order of the shots, except the head shot was probably last. Anyway, that's my theory -- as good as any and better than most.
    Right........Watch the Zapuder film!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zapr
    Right........Watch the Zapuder film!
    That the Zapuder footage supports the hypothesis that Kennedy was shot from behind from the general location of Oswald? If you believe that a shot object will always be hurled in the same direction as the projectile, then you have been watching too much TV and movie fiction.

    The bullet entered from behind without causing the head to pitch in either direction; the pitching of the head backwards was a reaction to the forward ejection of blood and other crainial matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    That the Zapuder footage supports the hypothesis that Kennedy was shot from behind from the general location of Oswald? If you believe that a shot object will always be hurled in the same direction as the projectile, then you have been watching too much TV and movie fiction.

    The bullet entered from behind without causing the head to pitch in either direction; the pitching of the head backwards was a reaction to the forward ejection of blood and other crainial matter.
    I wish I hadn't read this. Now I can't get the picture out of my head.
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    I wouldn't suggest...

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    I wish I hadn't read this. Now I can't get the picture out of my head.
    ...visiting sites that have the autopsy photos then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
    ...visiting sites that have the autopsy photos then...

    jimHJJ(...yep, they're out there...)
    Strange, but I can look at a pic and then put it out of my head. But if I'm made to imagine an image, it stays with me longer.
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    [QUOTE=Feanor]That the Zapuder footage supports the hypothesis that Kennedy was shot from behind from the general location of Oswald? If you believe that a shot object will always be hurled in the same direction as the projectile, then you have been watching too much TV and movie fiction.

    The bullet entered from behind without causing the head to pitch in either direction; the pitching of the head backwards was a reaction to the forward ejection of blood and other crainial matter.[/QUOTE There is no concrete evidence that Oswald was the shooter. To many eye witnesses, too much evidence to show otherwise.

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    True, granted

    There is no concrete evidence that Oswald was the shooter. To many eye witnesses, too much evidence to show otherwise.[/quote]

    Since Oswald wasn't brought to trial, we can't be certain that the evidence was sufficient to confict him. To me, he just looks like the most likely culprit and theories that he could not have do it don't seem compelling to me. The guilt of anyone else is pure conjecture.

    Of course it's true that most Americans believe that there was some sort of conspiracy to murder Kennedy. That doesn't make it so. In any case, which theory does one believe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    There is no concrete evidence that Oswald was the shooter. To many eye witnesses, too much evidence to show otherwise.
    Since Oswald wasn't brought to trial, we can't be certain that the evidence was sufficient to confict him. To me, he just looks like the most likely culprit and theories that he could not have do it don't seem compelling to me. The guilt of anyone else is pure conjecture.

    Of course it's true that most Americans believe that there was some sort of conspiracy to murder Kennedy. That doesn't make it so. In any case, which theory does one believe?[/QUOTE]
    You haven't researched the case , have you. You should, buddy. No Oswald wasn't brought to trial, they saw to that!

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