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    I'm not that big into special effect movies and I care more about the story and video, so rear speakers don't excite me. As long as the center channel is loud and clear and the sub is not boomy or muddy I'm happy. I would rather spend my money on the best 2ch audio I can afford as well as the best TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    I'm not that big into special effect movies and I care more about the story and video, so rear speakers don't excite me. As long as the center channel is loud and clear and the sub is not boomy or muddy I'm happy. I would rather spend my money on the best 2ch audio I can afford as well as the best TV.
    BR,
    I'm with you. There has only been one movie that I've watched where the surround really made a big difference. But, then I'm not into the latest big-bang movie thriller. We're matching through the 20+ Shirley Temple movies right now and even if there was surround sound back then: How much special effects can you provide when ST sings "On The Good Ship Lolly Pop"?

    On a funny note, it is so much fun to watch my 6-8 year old at the edge of there seats for these ST movies. I mean: nail biting, screaming at times "Oh No!". They are so cute...

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    I guess that's the difference guys. I watch Kung-Fu and Asian action and the rears are totally in the mix. Even my kid's cartoon flicks use the rears alot.

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    I also like the surround effects. I watch a lot of science fiction and action movies like Star Wars, Ironman, Transformer and the rears adds an additional dimension to the sound.

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    The seller accepted my offer of $900 (Cash) and I've asked to pick them up on Friday. He is also selling them on Audiogon so I've asked to do via that site. That way I can (hopefully) get a good review.


    Thanks for all your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manlystanley
    The seller accepted my offer of $900 (Cash) and I've asked to pick them up on Friday. He is also selling them on Audiogon so I've asked to do via that site. That way I can (hopefully) get a good review.


    Thanks for all your help!

    Best Regards,
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    $900? That's a good deal!
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    Wow, congrats Stan! You're movin on up!! I will be interested on your thoughts. I am still at a speaker crossroad. I've had several seasoned guys at this site and at AA tell me that Magnepan is the way to go with my Golden Tube.

    Feanor lives in the same city as me and I can audition the Golden Tube with his speakers. In all honesty, if I had the cash I would go this route, these are The Little Horn...




    More realistically, I will be building these....



    Again congrats Stan, I'm super happy for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffcin
    $900? That's a good deal!
    Ditto that! Congrats, Stan.

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    Congrats Stan! Welcome to the world of planar speakers. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. If you have a reference CD like Patricia Barber's Cafe Blue give it a listen. With that recording you can really get a feel of what these speakers can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manlystanley
    The seller accepted my offer of $900 (Cash) and I've asked to pick them up on Friday. He is also selling them on Audiogon so I've asked to do via that site. That way I can (hopefully) get a good review.


    Thanks for all your help!

    Best Regards,
    Stan
    congrats on you new purchase...cant wait for the review.

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    One thing you should know before making any judgments about your new speakers is that all Magnepans big and small, unlike many other speakers, do not like to play background music. After you get them home make sure you listen at a decent level. When you do they open up in a way that you have to be there to appreciate.

    I can still remember my first demo of the 3.6r like yesterday. When I got there they were playing something at a low level that was pretty nondescript. I sat down and was not expecting what was to happen next. Well, to say being taken on a rocket ride was to not do justice to what I was exposed to.

    At the risk of seeming like a "fanboy" I will say that when properly set up, and driven with enough power, in the range of 75dB to 95dB there's few speakers made that match what maggies can do. But don't believe me.

    You'll see....

    Congrats on the new speakers!!
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    Geoffcin...just wondering, I think these are out of production but would it be worth it to buy these? Not that I am going to buy them but was just wondering if these where a deal.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....epan-MG-IIc-sp


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    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Wow, congrats Stan! You're movin on up!!
    Chubbs,
    Your the man! You've given me some great advice and I can't wait to hear about your new project. I build the enclosures for my 6 inwall speakers (So they did not radiate on the back en). Lots of fun!

    Best Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Geoffcin...just wondering, I think these are out of production but would it be worth it to buy these? Not that I am going to buy them but was just wondering if these where a deal.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....epan-MG-IIc-sp


    frenchmon
    Well that's hard to say. The IIc are pretty old now, and there's a good possibility that the traces have delaminated from the Mylar. The good news is that that is easy to fix if you are even a little bit handy. However, they will sound a little rolled off compared to a modern speaker. For some that's OK. Heck, none of us can hear to 20kHz anymore, but if your used to a speaker that has extended treble it will sound a bit rolled off. Still, everything else from the middle on down will be maggie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffcin
    One thing you should know before making any judgments about your new speakers is that all Magnepans big and small, unlike many other speakers, do not like to play background music.

    Congrats on the new speakers!!
    Hello Geoffcin,
    I'll remember that. I went to the local store and took along two records and 4 CDs. Took my time listening to them with a Linn 100 watt amp. Very, very nice. The salesmen did a terrible job positioning them:

    - two feet at most from the back wall.
    - Two feet from the left side wall.
    - No right side wall.

    I listened to them for an hour. Everything you all said about them is true:

    -- Incredibly more detailed.
    -- Bass very balanced but not over powering.
    -- Bad recordings (e.g. one of my records had a lot of surface noise) come through very strongly.
    -- Just a joy to listen to. E.g. very, very musical.

    They seem to really bring though the musical expression so much more. Not sure how to say it, but I was much more engaged in what was being played.

    I'm sure that when I get the home and well adjusted, they will sound even better! Thanks so much for your help!

    Best Regards,
    Stan
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    ok thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    congrats on you new purchase...cant wait for the review.

    frenchmon
    Thanks, and I'll make sure to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven
    Congrats Stan! Welcome to the world of planar speakers. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. If you have a reference CD like Patricia Barber's Cafe Blue give it a listen. With that recording you can really get a feel of what these speakers can do.
    Thanks for the welcome to the club! Um..... Is there an initiation rite?? Maybe drinking a beer with live gold fish? Or maybe like in the Navy they would:

    -- Put you on top of a chair.
    -- Put a box of broken glass below you.
    -- Take off your shoes and socks.
    -- Then they blind fold you (so you can't see) and then swap out the box of broken glass with a box of potato chips.......
    -- Then you jump in feet first....... Scares you have to death when you the chips........


    Best Regards,
    Stan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    Ditto that! Congrats, Stan.
    Thanks for your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by manlystanley
    Thanks for the welcome to the club! Um..... Is there an initiation rite?? Maybe drinking a beer with live gold fish? Or maybe like in the Navy they would:

    -- Put you on top of a chair.
    -- Put a box of broken glass below you.
    -- Take off your shoes and socks.
    -- Then they blind fold you (so you can't see) and then swap out the box of broken glass with a box of potato chips.......
    -- Then you jump in feet first....... Scares you have to death when you the chips........


    Best Regards,
    Stan
    Its listening to a few hours of good music with a few good beers and a good woman, you can figure out what happens next
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    Quote Originally Posted by manlystanley
    Hello Geoffcin,
    I'll remember that. I went to the local store and took along two records and 4 CDs. Took my time listening to them with a Linn 100 watt amp. Very, very nice. The salesmen did a terrible job positioning them:

    - two feet at most from the back wall.
    - Two feet from the left side wall.
    - No right side wall.

    I listened to them for an hour. Everything you all said about them is true:

    -- Incredibly more detailed.
    -- Bass very balanced but not over powering.
    -- Bad recordings (e.g. one of my records had a lot of surface noise) come through very strongly.
    -- Just a joy to listen to. E.g. very, very musical.

    They seem to really bring though the musical expression so much more. Not sure how to say it, but I was much more engaged in what was being played.

    I'm sure that when I get the home and well adjusted, they will sound even better! Thanks so much for your help!

    Best Regards,
    Stan
    R.O.! Stan,

    And my pleasure dude!

    Wow, you don't even have the speakers home and your already "one of us"

    You'll know you made the right decision when you are listening for what you think is a short time, wonder why you feel a little sleepy, and look at the clock and it's >3am! Or if your wife comes into the room and you've got a tissue out and have to make an excuse that something flew into you eye when really you were so moved by the music that the water was flowing.

    You know what they say.....once you go flat you never go back!

    Congrats again, and "Happy New Year" to you and yours!
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