Totem v/s Monitor Audio

[mitchellin]

Like TheHills points out, sealed vs. sealed might be a fair go at issues of SQ and value. Say a test of the SB12 vs. Velo SPL Ultra 1000/1200 models...I'm betting on the SB12 in any case.

Big boys? The SVS PB13 Ultra vs. Velo SPL1500R? I'm still spending my money with SVS.

Pitting a PC13 Ultra against a Velodyne SPL (any series/size) is really not a challenge. I think the PC is refined in the 13 Ultra version and it puts many upper comsumer grade subs to task...sealed or ported. Just watch out for those DIY guys.

[Mr Peabody]

LOL, at least some one else around here knows what they are talking about Maybe my first, or only, SVS being a PC13 has me overly enthused on the brand. Usually though if one model is outstanding the others can't be far behind. The PC13 is fast and accurate, playing deeper than the SPL12 dreamed of going, the SPL12 basically could rumble for home theater but never was musical in my opinion. Another ax I have with the Velodyne it died within a couple years, after warranty of course, I should have gotten a replacement amp but just decided to move on. I owned the
SPL12 and the PC13 was it's direct replacement so I know very well the margin of improvement I experienced, large.

On another application I am going to try an older model Artison free standing sub. Most of their subs are in-wall. The design is interesting in that they use two 5x8's firing at one another to some how cancel noise and vibration, the model I'm using will have 4 drivers and supposed to be equivalent to a 13" standard woofer. The sub is passive and comes with a stand alone 600 watt amp. The amp has a high pass crossover which I will feed to my stereo amp to drive a set of Artison on-wall speakers. I'll have to start a thread when all is up and running.

Like TheHills points out, sealed vs. sealed might be a fair go at issues of SQ and value. Say a test of the SB12 vs. Velo SPL Ultra 1000/1200 models...I'm betting on the SB12 in any case.

Big boys? The SVS PB13 Ultra vs. Velo SPL1500R? I'm still spending my money with SVS.

Pitting a PC13 Ultra against a Velodyne SPL (any series/size) is really not a challenge. I think the PC is refined in the 13 Ultra version and it puts many upper comsumer grade subs to task...sealed or ported. Just watch out for those DIY guys.

[mitchellin]

Oh I bet you took notice of your PC. I was in the same boat when I jumped ship with Sunfire and went to SVS.



RCC-600SM...looks interesting. For sure, post up some info on your project!

[blackraven]

Blackraven, what are you talking about? Have you heard SVS? My SVS bests the Velodyne SPL I had in every aspect.

Mr.P, I didn't dis the SVS sub, I was just throwing out options. I have heard REL's, ML's, Velodynes and one of those tube SVS subs as well as a JL Fathom. My fav's for musicality and matching for my Magnepans are ranked as follows in descending order-
REL, JL Fathom, Martin Logans, Velodyne and then the SVS tube sub which I really did not care for. I tend to favor non ported and sevro controlled subs. Although the REL Britannia is ported, it is the most musical sub that I have heard. I have only been able to compare the REL's, Velodyne and ML subs directly. One of the things that I like about the Velodynes is that they come with an EQ and a remote control to change settings.

I have not heard a Rhytmik sub but I almost bought one and did a lot of research on them. People really like them. They are well made and have tight musical bass. They are a real bargain.

[Mr Peabody]

Subs are like any other gear, it comes to personal preference, giving you guys a hard time. I don't hear any reason to prefer ported or a sealed sub, just depends on which can do the job. I do prefer the SVS though.

[harley .guy07]

From my years in car audio and pro sound I would have to say that the design and implementation is much more important than if the sub is ported or sealed most of hte time. If a ported design is done right it can be just as musical and tight as a sealed design but people get a bad feeling about ported subs usually when they hear a couple that were poor designs where the bass is boomy or very peeked at certain frequencies but those are usually design flaws. A lot of DIYers and companies choose sealed inclosures mostly because they are much easier to design and get a musical performance out of since there are less variables to consider in the design. You are concerned with cabinet size, bracing, dampening, and power to the driver and there is not a port to worry about getting the right size and length and also if the port is shaped right to not add noise or take away from the performance in any way.
I am not saying that sealed is better than ported or vise versa I am just pointing out that both seald and ported can be musical, tight, and go low if the design and components all fall together to work the best they can.