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    Super tweeters

    I am getting tomorrow a pair of Ribbon Super tweeters for a 30 days evaluation. Has anybody here got any experience with super tweeters? What to listen for etc.?

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    I have a 6ft 3in tall super tweeter sitting infront of me In its standard configuration it starts at 12Khz but i lowered it to 7Khz. It plays over 35Khz before doing funny stuff and eventough when running it alone it doesnt seem like there is much information coming from it but once you remove it you will find something missing. Ofcourse as you know me my friend, a all out ribbon system is my choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
    I am getting tomorrow a pair of Ribbon Super tweeters for a 30 days evaluation. Has anybody here got any experience with super tweeters? What to listen for etc.?

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    Recently auditioned a supertweeter mod on a Magnepan 3.6. With the supertweeter, I heard better imaging, soundstage, bass and a more lifelike rendition of the instruments on the recording. Once the supertweeter was disconnected, the Magnepans sound more congested and harsh.

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    Thanks for the replies. Just took delivery and will report back after the weekend.

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    well it all really depends on what media you are listening to. if you are listening to a CD then there is no reason for a tweeter to go past 22kHz.

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    You will hear something missing even on CD if you dont run the ST. On the Maggies the ribbon is not a super tweeter but instead covers a wide range since the quassi midrange (only on 20R and 20.1R) is quite limited in HF extension. So it becomes very obvious on the Maggies if removed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pelly3s
    well it all really depends on what media you are listening to. if you are listening to a CD then there is no reason for a tweeter to go past 22kHz.
    Thanks for your reply.90% Vinyl.

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    Well with vinyl the super tweeter will make an improvement your brain responses to high frequencies even though you cant physically recognize it as noise.

    but there is absolutely no information on a CD beyond 22kHz that is technically meaningful so in a case like that it seems like a waste of money most red book audio cd's filter out everything above that due to the whole Nyquist Limit and all that fun stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by slbenz
    Recently auditioned a supertweeter mod on a Magnepan 3.6. With the supertweeter, I heard better imaging, soundstage, bass and a more lifelike rendition of the instruments on the recording. Once the supertweeter was disconnected, the Magnepans sound more congested and harsh.
    How would the supertweeter help the bass? I am not disagreeing with you, since i have no experience with super tweeters, I am just trying to learn. Do they make the speakers sound more crisp, therefore giving bass the perception of being more defined since there is more distinction between the upper and lower frequencies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd
    I am getting tomorrow a pair of Ribbon Super tweeters for a 30 days evaluation. Has anybody here got any experience with super tweeters? What to listen for etc.?

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    Super tweeters are not rocket science.I use a Fountek JP3 with a 1.5 micro farad cap sitting on top of my speakers.Work really well.Once your hear ribbon super tweeters there is no going back- better everything.

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    The place that's selling me my 1.6qr's offers a super tweeter upgrade for $1200. They claim it makes the 1.6 sound like the 3.6.

    I'll check em out, but I'm skeptical. For one thing, I have definite loss of hearing in the high-frequency range, so I'm afraid it might be lost on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Anderson
    The place that's selling me my 1.6qr's offers a super tweeter upgrade for $1200. They claim it makes the 1.6 sound like the 3.6.

    I'll check em out, but I'm skeptical. For one thing, I have definite loss of hearing in the high-frequency range, so I'm afraid it might be lost on me.
    Dont worry Mike, the 3.6 has a lot more surface area, large midrange area and is overall a few steps above the 1.6 Save your money and buy a used 3.6 for 3K sometime and dont buy that ST-
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtgofish
    Super tweeters are not rocket science.I use a Fountek JP3 with a 1.5 micro farad cap sitting on top of my speakers.Work really well.Once your hear ribbon super tweeters there is no going back- better everything.
    And then you take that super ribbon tweeter and use it for the midrange and then use it for the bass. Make the whole speaker a pure ribbon speaker ;-) Sorry, couldnt help myself but its addicting.

    Anyways to the bass issue, it is known that frequencys even unaudible by humans to have an impact on the lower frequencys. Just try it with and without :-)
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