Quote Originally Posted by chaos24
the problem i am having is not the bass....it is beautiful.. but why do i have to crank up my reciever past 3/4 to get the bass im looking for...they do produce astonishing bass....but i have to really crank up my reciever.....WHY??????

Just play it with the sub turned on, that is clearly the sound you are looking for. Because at this point the question has become "Why do I have to turn up my receiver to get loud/strong bass?" Umm, because you want it loud/strong. If you really want the answer read previous posts by all, especially Kex's positioning suggestion.